Sunday, August 23, 2015

Roleplay Class - Sunday 23 August 2015

Here is the verbatim transcript of YT's Roleplay Class

[15:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): alright, thank you all for coming :)
[15:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): If you have questions, we require that you follow these steps:
 make a ? in public chat
 type ahead what you want to ask but do NOT send it
 wait till your name is called, then send what you wrote.
 This way we are keeping the flow.
[15:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, only a ? - then wait :)
[15:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in this RP class we will cover several topics, many of them geared to the Amazon, but also some valid everywhere
[15:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the class is not prefab, i  "type live"
[15:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, typos may occur


[15:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now. for the start, we look at the technicla setup, that you can do, to make your stay at the amazon most enjoyable
[15:07] Y.T. (yt.recreant): first off, you are here in an area with several regions. this is, from the viewer-aspect, quite important
[15:07] Y.T. (yt.recreant): many regions are that: one region. and all around them is the full wide Linden Ocean- in other words, nothing interesting
[15:07] Y.T. (yt.recreant): for the viewer to rezz, that is
[15:07] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, people can go around, happy with viewer settigns like "show me everything, and i mean eeeeverything, in 500 meters around me
[15:07] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a region is only 256 meters in square
[15:08] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, who cares
[15:08] Y.T. (yt.recreant): however, if you do this here, your viewer follows swift
[15:08] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and shows you eeeeverything - that means, it triues to rezz all items, avatars, textures etc, also on neighbouring regions
[15:08] Y.T. (yt.recreant): even if, from there you are standing, you can't see it
[15:09] Y.T. (yt.recreant): this effect influecnes your viewer much less nowadays, if you have the  latest SL viewer or the latest 3rd party viewer - (on 3rd party vierwers, check in their feature list, if they have 'project interesting' build in. FS has, kokua has, the otehrs I don't know
[15:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is the "codename" for avoiding to rezz things that you can't see anyway
[15:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): however, even with that. your performance wil be MUCH faster if your  draw distance is appropriate
[15:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): here, in the amazon, in addition to that, the amazon viewer anyway spams your screen if you try to cam out
[15:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): most of you have noticed, i hope
[15:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): to reduce draw distance, go to the preferences
[15:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and there graphics
[15:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): firestorm users can type "dd 96" in local chat
[15:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): also, in forestorm, if your viewer starts to lag, first "dd 0"  - that makes the drawdistance to 0 meters, you see not much then- wait 1-2 minutes
[15:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then do dd 96 to return to normal sight
[15:12] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you want, and you are in FS; try it out, type now    .... dd 0
[15:12] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then ... dd 96
[15:12] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you won't crash :)
[15:12] Y.T. (yt.recreant): another point is geared to NVIdia users... i found ages ago a website, i followed the hints there, and my performance improved greatly
[15:12] Y.T. (yt.recreant): let me dig the link
[15:13] Y.T. (yt.recreant):
[15:13] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the screenshots in that article are dated, the content is not
[15:13] Rhys Goode: ?
[15:13] Miyu Tatham: site cannot be loaded
[15:13] Y.T. (yt.recreant): only for NVIdia, mind you
[15:13] Y.T. (yt.recreant): aww
[15:13] Y.T. (yt.recreant): shucks
[15:14] Y.T. (yt.recreant): it is gone
[15:14] Y.T. (yt.recreant): R.I.P
[15:14] Erikk Xeltentat grins
[15:14] Y.T. (yt.recreant): err, scrap that then :)
[15:14] Kelv Beck: (wayback machine?)
[15:14] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yah maybe,. let me try
[15:14] Winter (winterthyme): RHys has a question
[15:14] Rhys Goode: I remember that optimization link, but it is dead now.
[15:14] Preostan Scribe: ?
[15:14] Rhys Goode: Not really a question.
[15:14] Y.T. (yt.recreant): very good!
[15:14] Y.T. (yt.recreant):
[15:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Rhys, you had a ?
[15:15] NM-210615: (F)  - relogged
[15:15] Rhys Goode: No, just wanted to point out that the link was dead.
[15:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok :)
[15:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Preo?
[15:15] Winter (winterthyme): Preo has one too
[15:15] Preostan Scribe: That link was too dated to be of much use anymore. . the terms have changed quite a bit.
[15:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yah but one gets the gist :)
[15:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so. summarizing:; do not run hogh ddraw distnace
[15:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and
[15:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the next point is:
[15:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): avoid sculpted hair and clothes
[15:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): sculpt, was the choice to make sutuff, until, like 2012 or so. it used a very exoitic, SL unique way for content creation
[15:17] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the workload to show the sculpt is nowadays slowing down the viewers a lot. they are all optimized to show mesh
[15:17] Y.T. (yt.recreant): mesh hair, mesh clothes
[15:17] Y.T. (yt.recreant): or, yes, of cours, normal prims and system clothes
[15:17] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but sculpt, is a perofrmance breaker, big time
[15:17] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, when you wear sculpt hair, your head is in the camera most of the time during the day
[15:18] Y.T. (yt.recreant): sop, you brign your lag always with you wherever you go :)
[15:18] Y.T. (yt.recreant): drop that ole sculpt hair :)
[15:18] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): ?
[15:18] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Melanie?
[15:18] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): Yes, Hi, Any hints on Singularity?
[15:18] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is the viewer which has serious trouble with EXP - the script sort we use here
[15:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we come to that in a moment
[15:19] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): ok ty :)
[15:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, back to amazon specifics, yes :)
[15:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): when you arrive here, you spotted, you msut wear a HUD; autoattach
[15:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the technology behind is called "Seamless Experience"
[15:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a new thing form LL
[15:20] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we can create with that all the fancy stuff, also like "walk into the gate at Glint and land at the skybox at lago marimba"
[15:20] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we have, seldom, users who have problems with that HUD, and attaching
[15:20] Erikk Xeltentat smiles remembering glint
[15:20] Y.T. (yt.recreant): on each and every case in the last year we have this running we had always eitehr one of these two problems as cause identified:
[15:21] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you are using eitehr singularity - really, i do not mind about that viewer, i am not bahshing it, but we had it "youuse singularity? switch viewer - oh, it works"
[15:21] Y.T. (yt.recreant): or you had more than 32 attachments
[15:21] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and people get there fast
[15:21] iHex: :D
[15:21] Y.T. (yt.recreant): mind you; mesh body, mesh boobs, hud here, weapon ther,e hair , mesh clothes..l.
[15:21] Y.T. (yt.recreant): as soon as you have 32 attachments - full
[15:21] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, check these two things, and you are good to go
[15:22] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now  that was the tech talk :) light, a bit simpliified - if you are a preofessional IT person, bear with it :)
[15:22] Y.T. (yt.recreant): any ? ?
[15:22] Y.T. (yt.recreant): none - good - next topic :)
[15:23] Rhys Goode: erm. sim lag in glint was clearly the cause, the first two time I tried to come here. Sometimes it is *really* bad.
[15:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Make a ? next time beforehand please :) then i am aware and wait
[15:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): thank you for your comment though :)
[15:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): good - next topic :)


[15:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the Roleplay at the amazon
[15:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we have one level that fits them all who come here in the start: explorer
[15:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): people with amazon explorer tag have 2 more Health Points than the "Normal" roles, but less shots
[15:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): they get a bit the "puppy status" as they are new and need to find their way
[15:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): also, really, yes, people come here to take pictures only
[15:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, as long as explorers do not attack you, treat them gentle
[15:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): however, yes, they are never off limits
"AFK" and no"BUSY" - i will explainthe OC part in a it
[15:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): *bit
[15:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): as soon as you are int he forest, you are a valid part of the forest
[15:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we are not a zoo
[15:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we have no observers
[15:26] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and if anyone claims that, yah, they just earn to be shot - so they understand they are not
[15:26] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but be gentle when you shoot them :)
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now when you are explorer, and you want to expereince here more, but ALSO for many  i met recently who have a tag already other than explorer...
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we are going to address the two most imortant terms: OOC and IC
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Out of Character
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): In Character
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is essential for everyone here to get this
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you fail to understand this, OOC and IC; youa re totes lost
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so...
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): OOC as part 1
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Out Of Charcater" is you the "Person behind hte keyboard"
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): OOC you are sitting on a comfy chair, right now
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you are reading mwhat i write rite now
[15:28] Troll Parnall nods
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): OOC is your real you
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we are here right now all OOC
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in OOC i have all the comfort of my Real Life BUT
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i also have all my comofrt of my viewer
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i can read your name tags
[15:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i know all your names and who is around on my radar
[15:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and i can teleport
[15:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and i have a viwer .. etc
[15:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is all OOC
[15:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and how we sit here togetzher is OOC too
[15:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): to make this clear what it means, now let me explain what is IC
[15:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): IC i i am right now a pale skinend spritewhatever with gren tail and pointed ears
[15:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): do i have a green tail in RL?
[15:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): probably not
[15:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so.
[15:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if i am IC, in the forst, "downstairs" and you see me there...
[15:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then IC means also "Make believe" .-
[15:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): think back of the days when you were kids and you played "bandits and police officer" or "House"
[15:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you "made believe"
[15:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you made believe that John from the neighbourhouse is the sheriff
[15:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you made believe that your classmate Kathy is now the grandma..
[15:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in here, Roleplay is much the same
[15:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, if i would meet you, in the forest, for the first time...
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i would not say "Hello Rhys"
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): because, i would "make believe" that i have no name tags
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that i have no radar
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that i need to gather my information like it would be if it was real
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in RL Rhys has no name tag above the head
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, if i want to know the name i do what?
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i ask
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): here, i do the same
[15:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now i want to tel you a classical approach to a seeker - which i saw sadly a lot lately
[15:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a female, human shape, walked up to me, i never saw her before
[15:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "Hello YT" (wrong approach, see above)
[15:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "i want a new Tag" (wrong, there are no tags in RP)
[15:34] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "i want to be an animal" (wrong, animals do not talk to begin with, and the shape was human)
[15:34] Y.T. (yt.recreant): she did not get the tag
[15:34] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you want to enjyo RP, imerse yourself
[15:34] Y.T. (yt.recreant): try to feel yourself
[15:35] Y.T. (yt.recreant): immerse yourself
[15:35] Y.T. (yt.recreant): try to "feel" yourself
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): try to feel how it would be if you really were naked (as native) or really in simple clothes (as settler)
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and go from there


[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then, we come now to the encounters, in Roleplay
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you meet someone in RP it could go like this, (bad sample!):
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): A: Hi
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): B Hi
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): A: How are you?
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): B. Fine, good, but this lag today...
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant) groans
[15:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is so painful, i run when i hear such :)
[15:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): first off, be descirptive and emote
[15:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): emote comes from expressing what you would feel
[15:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so try for example this
[15:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smiles and looks at the other person "Hello there"
[15:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you see, there is an emotion as well as eye contact
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you can emote siomple with /me in the start ofthe line
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so like /me smiles
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that makes
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smilese
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): whtout typo of course
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smiles and looks around
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, the sample above could go:
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a: smiles at B and admires their outfit "hi, this looks pretty, my name is A
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): b: smiles back "why thank you, name is B...
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok this is sstil very simple, but, you get the idea
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, the "i am fine,  but lag...
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): why is that bad?
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): because, lag is OOC
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): hell if you really want to man about "lag" then wrap it at least nicer intop IC
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): like "i am fine, but somewhat my legs  do not carry me so fast like i wnat
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you have bongo drums
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you have dancers
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the mood is all rainforest
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and suddenly it goes
[15:40] Wang Ying (wangyingii): ?
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): A: i crashed...
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): A: crashed
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): B. "Welcome back A
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): C. welcome back A
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): D hi A, wb
[15:40] Rhys Goode: ?
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): A: yah the new viewer...
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): etc
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that bteaks every mood totally
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so we had two ?
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): wang first
[15:41] Winter (winterthyme): Wang
[15:41] Wang Ying (wangyingii) wonders "when do you use 1st person and when 3rd person in the emote?"
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ah there you do it as you like..
[15:41] Troll Parnall Pounces his Prey
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in the first place, your emotes are your style
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, some examples of what i have seen for emotes:
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant) bounces her prey
[15:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant) would bounce her prey
[15:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smiles and i bounce my prey
[15:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant) looks at the prey and says "Hey you!
[15:42] Troll Parnall: rawr
[15:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant) would look and then i smile at the prey "hey u
[15:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yah i know, some come loike "No textspk, duh"
[15:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but, hey, it is your freedom to express yourself like you want
[15:42] Ĵûʂʈäиυʈɦą  Ƙυɳʈ™ (enya.toros): Does my Avi look depressed Mel? ..xD
[15:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): sometimes i play a blonde valley girl.. then i totes all like use u n r n shit :D

[15:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): does that answer your queastion, Wang?
[15:43] Wang Ying (wangyingii): yes ty
[15:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok :)
[15:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and Rhys
[15:43] Rhys Goode: I know you are really donw on OOC chatter here, you make that clear at the wisdom cave.? And a good thing, too.But sometimes, RL intervenes with no warning. And you *have* to go. Isn't an ((OOC)) message appropriate, then? Or if there is a different way to do it here, I'll gladly follow the custom.

[15:44] jarieth (felinajrc): ?
[15:44] felinajrc Resident: ?
[15:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes sure. i mean, if you are in "action" and you know, you have to fall silent now for x minutes or even log, sure say briefly "RL" or somesuch...
[15:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is just polite :)
[15:44] Rhys Goode nods
[15:44] Rhys Goode: seems to me too, thanks
[15:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): what is unsettling is the "wb" orgy on each small interruption...
[15:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i have had camp fire partys at tribes whree , no kidding, every 15 minutes there was 10 minutes "Hello" and "bye" and "wb"
[15:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[15:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that was more like a club
[15:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i was just waiting for "lol" and "gtsy"
[15:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Jarieth?
[15:46] Preostan Scribe: ?
[15:46] jarieth (felinajrc): gracias, de las tribus que he conocido solo en una vi una extraña costumbre
[15:46] felinajrc Resident: thanks, tribes I have met only a saw a strange habit
[15:46] jarieth (felinajrc): debo viajar al mundo de lso espiritus, es una manera elegante de decir debo volver a la realidad
[15:46] felinajrc Resident: I travel to the world of spirits lso, is a fancy way of saying I must return to reality
[15:46] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is a good way too!
[15:46] jarieth (felinajrc): pero algo negativo es que todo el mundo me dice hola jarieth
[15:46] felinajrc Resident: but a negative is that everyone says hello jarieth
[15:46] jarieth (felinajrc): pero nadie sabe quien soy ni de donde vengo
[15:47] felinajrc Resident: but nobody knows who I am or where I come from
[15:47] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes ! that is what i mean. that is.. disturbing - yes !
[15:47] Winter (winterthyme): Preo had a question too
[15:47] Preostan Scribe: is there hard jail time for gesture abuse?
[15:47] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is why really, i announced it a few days ago in chat... if people  say my name without having met me ICly..  i wil lshoot them down for using voodoo magic
[15:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i would recommend to everyone to do the same
[15:48] Rhys Goode: hehe
[15:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Gestures - yah, icky.. same, voodoo magic, shootem
[15:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): more ?
[15:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok :)
[15:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then you know now...
[15:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a.) IC you are the role you picked to be
[15:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): b.) you try ICly to gather the informations
[15:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): c.) emote emote emote
[15:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and an example on the fun of RP and IC and gather info...
[15:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i have it sometimes, that i meet a guy,.. his nametag, OOC is maybe, for example "paul"
[15:50] Wang Ying (wangyingii): ?
[15:50] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and i ask him, in RP; IC; "what is your name?" and he replies "Karl"
[15:50] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then, if somethign "Happens" in the RP i would say later "Karl" did that to me!
[15:50] Y.T. (yt.recreant): like, in RL, you would, if you had bad intentions, also not give your real name :D
[15:50] Y.T. (yt.recreant): this is one of many examples how RP and IC can enhance the fun
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): this is a stage
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and you can be what you want to be
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you can dare


[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): this brings me to the next part, the roles you can pick here
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we have native and settler
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then rogue
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): shaman and healer
[15:51] Winter (winterthyme): Wang had a question
[15:51] Wang Ying (wangyingii) wonders "has anybody ever written a storyline for multiple IC players?
[15:52] Troll Parnall raises a paw
[15:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): I don't know Wang :) it may well be
[15:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Troll?
[15:52] Troll Parnall: murawr rawr arwrr murr rawrs?
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): shaman and healer
[15:51] Winter (winterthyme): Wang had a question
[15:51] Wang Ying (wangyingii) wonders "has anybody ever written a storyline for multiple IC players?
[15:52] Troll Parnall raises a paw
[15:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): I don't know Wang :) it may well be
[15:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Troll?
[15:52] Troll Parnall: murawr rawr arwrr murr rawrs?
[15:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ((excuse me 2 minutes, while Winter can eitehr tanslate Troll or explain the extra roles, seeker and guard :)
[15:52] Troll Parnall: :P what about wildlife
[15:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): brb
[15:52] Neo (neowhalen): grins that was a mouthfull
[15:53] Winter (winterthyme): Troll did you have a question?
[15:53] Troll Parnall shakes his head now.
[15:53] Troll Parnall: no even
[15:53] Winter (winterthyme): ok :
[15:54] Winter (winterthyme): As YT was saying we have a variety of Roles
[15:54] Winter (winterthyme): includign Wildlife :-)
[15:54] Troll Parnall does the happy cat dance
[15:54] Winter (winterthyme): One important thing when considering which Amazon role you want to adopt is to think how well it 'fits' with you - as the OOC person
[15:55] Winter (winterthyme): Troll please keep side comments out as it is very distracting
[15:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so. yes, fits you as OOC
[15:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): meaning:
[15:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you are a timid,shy one in RL...
[15:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and not very outspoken here too...
[15:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then for example "Rogue" is NOT your role that you want
[15:56] Y.T. (yt.recreant): on the other hand, if you have "poor impulse control" and are a bit.. fast in.. being confrontational...
[15:56] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then you maybe do NOT want to be a healer
[15:56] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you will find yourself comfortable in a role that fits your RL character..
[15:56] Y.T. (yt.recreant): as we seldom can overcome our RL habits

[15:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): on the other hand, IC and OOC means also, detach yourself from the RL self a bit
[15:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): here an example:
[15:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if i am roleplaying with you, in the forest, and maybe - you capture me
[15:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i wil curse maybe
[15:57] Zyanya Cualli (kqwerfellow): ?
[15:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i wil lmaybe call you names
[15:57] Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): wow
[15:57] Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): teleportation
[15:57] Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): neat
[15:57] Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): ah ah
[15:57] Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): yea
[15:57] Ĵûʂʈäиυʈɦą  Ƙυɳʈ™ (enya.toros): that makes you a bitch in reality Mel ..lmfao ))
[15:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i will even call you really bad names
[15:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): btu that is all roleplay
[15:58] Amazon River HUD V0.99b beta: you can not carry more shots. Full.
[15:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if i meet you OOCly, or if i call you names here in this classroom now, then it is NOT roleplay, then it is even an insult
[15:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, what i observe a lot.. not here only but in every region, where roleplay takes palec...
[15:58] Neo (neowhalen): ?
[15:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): people have trouble to differ between IC and OOC
[15:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): there is the rogue who attacks a healer
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then it goes on
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in Amazon chat
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "OMG i HAVE BEEN SHOT !!!11!!
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then in the IM of the rogue
[15:59] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): she called me a bitch
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "YOU BASTARD SHOT ME
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): etc
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then eventually it shows up in my IMS "john doe shot me, ban him!!!
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and ther, all i can say is
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): people
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): relax
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): John Doe wanted to roleplay with you
[16:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and yah, he shot you... but your piceldoll
[16:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): not you in RL
[16:00] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi) raises her hand
[16:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, relax, say oooom, and smile
[16:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now there were many questions
[16:00] Winter (winterthyme): Zyanya first
[16:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Zyanaya
[16:00] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): ?
[16:00] Zyanya Cualli (kqwerfellow): What if you have ADHD? what be a good role
[16:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): rogue
[16:00] Zyanya Cualli (kqwerfellow): ty
[16:01] Amazon River HUD V0.99b beta: you can not carry more shots. Full.
[16:01] Troll Parnall: doh
[16:01] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Neo?
[16:01] Winter (winterthyme): Neo
[16:01] Neo (neowhalen): wat if there is a language barrier ?
[16:01] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok...
[16:01] Neo (neowhalen): and neither could understand the next
[16:01] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if there is IC roleplay, and it leads to misunderstandigns and frrustration, a good idea is always, to swithc to IM and to sort it out there...
[16:01] Y.T. (yt.recreant): however
[16:02] Y.T. (yt.recreant): of course, if people are not able to understand your language, it is perfectly fine, to google the translation and to write via google translate "look, this makes no sense, you do not understand me, i do not understand you, let us play with other people
[16:03] Y.T. (yt.recreant): coz, it really makes no sense
[16:03] Neo (neowhalen): Ty
[16:03] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[16:03] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and.. Melanie
[16:04] jarieth (felinajrc): ?
[16:04] felinajrc Resident: ?
[16:04] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): so to make sure , IC: it's like me hating Viv, cause she was bullying Bri at her home, and when I yell "Viv you are a bitch" and sometimes "Enya you are a bitch too cause you had more guys than me" that IC
[16:04] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes but here also:
[16:04] Y.T. (yt.recreant): try to keep it in local chat
[16:04] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): because I do talk to Viv at her bar, and we drink and chill, that's OCC
[16:04] Y.T. (yt.recreant): not everyone understands such ongoing in amazon chat
[16:04] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, do these things in local
[16:04] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): so do say that but in local
[16:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes, and keep in mind:
[16:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): outside the local chat, and especially in IM...
[16:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you are *always* respectful, no matter how often the other one downed you
[16:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we are not here to give ius grief in RL
[16:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we are here to have fun and if the RP is no fun, one can say that in IM; polite
[16:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): aggression always calls up more agression
[16:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Khaliesi
[16:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ?
[16:06] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): ty
[16:06] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): i have a question about im and amazon chat
[16:06] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): ok two
[16:06] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): lol
[16:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[16:06] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): so amazon chat
[16:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): sure
[16:07] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): i have seen so many differnt things....ooc ic...i get really confused as to what it is actually for
[16:07] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): is that a "group rp"
[16:07] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): or for chit chat
[16:07] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): that is the first one
[16:07] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): lol
[16:07] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): the second is about im
[16:08] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): so if someone is off line, i find it frustrating for someone to leave them an offline message in character.  i have received them and been totally caught off guard and confused.  it actually led me to be a bit upset.  i wanted to know what are your thoughts on that
[16:09] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok, then first the amazo chat...
[16:09] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the amazon chat is mainly to organize things, to appoint things, but also a social hang out. we are all social people and it is in our nature to chit chat about the weather and whatnot.
[16:09] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): ok
[16:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i have seen regions trying to confine such chatrooms to "IC only" and they died, as that jars with the nature of people
[16:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): it is a chatterbox
[16:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and i step in if it gets too far off topic from amazon
[16:10] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): ty.  i was confused when i saw the rp in there.  lol
[16:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but i don't take any announcement in there too much ICly serious
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok :)
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): as for IM
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): IM is almost always OOC
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): for the person behind hte keyboard
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): exceptions are ...
[16:11] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): yeah not what i meant
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so i could write you IM OOCly "hi, have been waiting, going now
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): or i write ICly "/me leaves a note on your desk.. saying....."
[16:12] Y.T. (yt.recreant): or what do you mean?
[16:12] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): i understand those examples and agree.  :)
[16:12] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): if there is an interruption in a rp
[16:13] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): im talking about i log into a long im from someone telling me sometthing that is total rp, but can be confused as not rp.
[16:13] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): confusing i am sorry but example
[16:14] Wang Ying (wangyingii): ?
[16:14] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): "you tresspassed on my camp and you were seen doing so, now you own 200 coins.  you have about 5 days to pay this or else"
[16:14] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): if someone logs into that
[16:14] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): and has no clue what is evne going on
[16:14] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): it can be misconstured.  ((im trying to not say names.  lol""
[16:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smiles "i would assume first that the talk is about coins. and so, it must be IC.. but, yah, that is a strange way to approach it.. however. what i learned for myself, from the past, as being roleplayer but also running my shop.. ...
[16:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i try hard to not assume but first to ask back as neutral as possible
[16:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): like
[16:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "was that OOC or IC?"
[16:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and then go from there with the answer
16:15] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): ok.  tyvm
[16:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if it was ooc, i would bin it
[16:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if it was IC i would laugh it off and bin it too :)
[16:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but i would make sure, they would hear me laugh :D
[16:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Jarieth?
[16:16] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): haha.  thank you
[16:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you're welcome :)
[16:16] jarieth (felinajrc): gracias, primero el idioma no es problema
[16:16] felinajrc Resident: thanks first language is not a problem
[16:16] jarieth (felinajrc): uso un mal traductorpero ayuda a comprender
[16:16] felinajrc Resident: Use a bad traductorpero helps to understand
[16:17] jarieth (felinajrc): segundo algunas personas olvidan que es la selva, y gritan diciendo este es mi hogar, es como estar en un parque y decir que ese es tu banca
[16:17] felinajrc Resident: second some people forget that it is the jungle, screaming and saying this is my home, it's like being in a park and say that's your banking
[16:18] jarieth (felinajrc): tambien hay quienes cometen errores, como alguien me asesino seguro sin querer al arrojarme al rio con las manos atads
[16:18] felinajrc Resident: there are also those who make mistakes, as someone inadvertently insurance murderer me to throw myself into the river with hands atads
[16:18] jarieth (felinajrc): obvio hud de nado off, asi que no digan porque se suicido???
[16:18] felinajrc Resident: hud obvious swim off, so do not say that he committed suicide ???
[16:18] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smiles
[16:19] jarieth (felinajrc) whispers: y ultima observacion, si eres un depredador, un picaro, no des de baja para luego portarte como un don juan romantico, eso confunde, eres de los buenos o de los malos???
[16:19] felinajrc Resident: and final point, if you're a predator, a rogue, do not give low and then act like a Don Juan romantic, that confused, are of good or bad ???
[16:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): YES !
[16:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): here also the call for those who want a rogue role or such...
[16:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you ask the seeker nicely for it, forget it
[16:20] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a rogue is not a rogue for beign nice
[16:20] Y.T. (yt.recreant): thank you Jarieth...
[16:20] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Wang?
[16:20] Wang Ying (wangyingii): yes..., a bit out of context now
[16:21] Wang Ying (wangyingii) finds "sometimes I have taken IC from local to IM because you don't want to sext there and then we have an agreement that OOC is always framed in (( )) [this could be any convetion you agree on] "
[16:22] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i understand that "the secks" in local chat is not everyones cup of tea..  how you agree on that with your pla ypartner is of course your business :) but chat is really more real :D
[16:22] Y.T. (yt.recreant): as roleplay place admin i see it from this point.
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you go to places that are really packed, and not roleplay areas...
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): for example "Gor HUB" or "Temple of the OpenCollar"
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you see tons of people standing around
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in IM
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): dead drop boring
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we can't have boring :)
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and it is unrealistiic that you and i talk and no one hears it
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): or that you sit 200 meters away from me...
[16:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and whisper in my ear
[16:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, in a roleplay area (not only her, but almost everywhere) try to keep as much as possible inchat
[16:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): more ?


[16:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok
[16:24] Wang Ying (wangyingii): ty
[16:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the next part is the conflilct
[16:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you're welcome :)
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): roleplay is about conflict
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): often
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): like, you want an item
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you want a spot
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you ant someones attention
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): etc
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you *want*
[16:25] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): ?
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and others are your obstacles to overcome
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you need them otehrs to make them *want* your wish
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you can be nice about it
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): or less nice
[16:26] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is alone your call
[16:26] Y.T. (yt.recreant): melanie?
[16:26] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): I was presented the other day the name of "Gor" and honestly I don't understand it, people say it's gor what we do in here, some others dont and I dont even understand what is it
[16:26] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a Gor.. is.. different :) i do not want to bash it, so i zip it .)
[16:26] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): I was wondering since you mentioned it, maybe you could explain it.. :/
[16:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): maybe another day . it would exceed the time today
[16:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so.. let us go back to conflict :)
[16:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a conflict can be done with words - or with weapons
[16:27] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): yus
[16:27] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): ty :D
[16:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[16:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we have chosen here to go by a metered combat, that means a HUD monitors your weapons
[16:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): other regions use "dices", yes, they really throw a dice to decide the outcome
[16:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): again others only rely on text
[16:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but what they all have in common is:
[16:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): some people can not lose
[16:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "i lost? no way, you cheated!!"
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): here, at amazon, throw in also at will...
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "you took off your HUD
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "you used shields
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "the HUD sucks
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "the region sucks
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "thanks Obama!
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): what people who can not lose - miss in the first place is:
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): this is not a competiton
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you are not out to win a race
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you won't get a medal
[16:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you "lost" a battle, you are just on the other side of the Roleplay
[16:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): remember my example of "childhood, roleplay with your neighbours on the street"?
[16:30] jarieth (felinajrc): shu gato shu
[16:30] felinajrc Resident: Cat shu shu
[16:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): there, groups were formed like "A,b and C are now the white hats, and D, E, F are the black hats"
[16:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and uf you were C and badly wanted to play the black hats for once and were noot chosen..
[16:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you eventually threw a fit and stomped your feet and marched off
[16:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that was, when you were a kid
[16:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now when you are downed - it means exactly that; you get a role, for this one RP, that you maybe did bnot anticipate. you are the "victim" inthis moment, not the agressor
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): funny though, the above mentioend outbursts then are pretty much like them kids on the streets
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "you loser, you cheater, the HUD sucks"
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): is exactly the same
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): like stomping and pouting
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we don't take any of that
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is why we do not moderate
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you "Lost"; you get roleplay
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you are here to roleplay
[16:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you only want to rolelplay exactly the role that you anticipaited and with all people behaving like you picuterd it beforehand...
[16:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then you maybe do not want to RP but rather want to write a book, wher you can form ficitonal characters
[16:33] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): amen to that
[16:33] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): lol
[16:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but here,. your other characters "In game" are also having their ideas, wants, neds, wishes, they conflict with oyurs
[16:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and *that* is the fun!
[16:34] Y.T. (yt.recreant): questions here?
[16:34] Dig (digtheshark): ?
[16:34] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Dig, shoot :)
[16:35] Dig (digtheshark): what about the forced rp like we had a conflict earlier that lead to lot of OOC noise and i left until it was resolved by others; then one person threatened me in IM to come for rp or she'll get me banned blah blah; how to rp in such situations
[16:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): it is hard to stay calm. good roleplay carries one away.  emotions can fly high...
[16:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so here is what i do, or try to do... then...
[16:36] Rotty (rottonny): ?
[16:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if i , myself am annoyed.. i eitehr walk my dog in RL first.. or i yell at Winter in IM how stupid they all are.. .. i vent..
[16:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then when my mood is back to somewhat manageable, i IM them...
[16:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the other way ...
[16:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if someone suddenly flares up in my IM; uncalled for, without warning..
[16:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i also try to not assume but to ask first "what do you mean?" or "what upsets you?"
[16:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): first and most important is to find out *what+ is the reason for the temper outburst
[16:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then one can resolve that
[16:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i also agree... that some people are nt able to put it into words what they feel
[16:39] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): how can they just say "i'll have you banned"
[16:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): they yell at me , i am called bitch, cunt, whatever, really (for roleplay or managing the region, does not matter)
[16:39] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): seems kinda silly
[16:39] Çððkïê (liljavai): ?
[16:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then when they do that, yah, i arrest them and make fun of them till they eitehr fully freak out and leave or til they calm down
[16:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, you can't arrest them Dig..
[16:39] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): giggles
[16:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so i would tell them coldly...
[16:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "i am going to killban you now for an hour, then i block you on top and if you write a noce NC as apology to my partenr and he/she forwards it tio me i wil reconsider this)
[16:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): really
[16:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): blocking is such a nice way to get peace, because hey, these are "other RPers" and if they can't behave and make you mad, why spend time with them?
[16:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but first, really try to sort it out in IM
[16:41] Rotty (rottonny): ?
[16:41] Dig (digtheshark): well, i encouraged her to report it to you
[16:41] Dig (digtheshark): :)
[16:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ah i am not a oderator, and most reports i really don't read. it often goes when W and i meet inthe mornign "have you read this NC?" he asks and my reply is "Nope"
[16:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): coz, i delted it
[16:41] Winter (winterthyme): true dat
[16:41] Wang Ying (wangyingii): ?
[16:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant): soo rotty?
[16:42] Rotty (rottonny): ty
[16:42] Rotty (rottonny): if a woman refuses to be raped and lets her captive know this....but he does she rp out of it?
[16:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): there are several ways
[16:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): one is "fade to black" means, let him have fun with my pixelself while i surf the web
[16:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): he won't get any response durign that act
[16:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the other is, to make clear to him in IM that this and that won't fly
[16:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): an if he ignores it, to TP away. however.. here also, key is:
[16:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): do NOT freak out. ALWAYS be polite
[16:44] JeMeKa (dalegibbson): Is there anyway you guys can stop people from cheating, detaching hud during RP?
[16:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "hey you mofo stop that shit" will not sit as well as "please do not do that now, i do not like that, i will TP out if you do not stop"
[16:44] Neo (neowhalen): ?
[16:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Jemeka, keep the order please, make a ? and wait till you are called
[16:44] Rotty (rottonny): nods
[16:45] Rotty (rottonny): ty
[16:45] Preostan Scribe: ?
[16:45] JeMeKa (dalegibbson): ?
[16:45] Hanna Joubert (hannanell): ?
[16:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, TP away is cool, if you were polite beforehand
[16:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes
[16:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, i believe, cookie
[16:45] Çððkïê (liljavai): i am wondering about something were I've heard some people complain about  someone  were  they are explorers yet a supporter and taking part in the rp life and being part of a group full of rouges ... I've had many complaints about this but  as this person  is the highest in health in that group part from say healers.. many find this unfair ..  im wondering if there is something that could be done to fix that? say for example if you are explorer you are explorer till you get different role but if you become supporter your automatically part of rp life of amazon and there for wont have explorer  anymore but will simply be supporter with same health as anyone else till you find the role you want to play as..or something like that .. also there have been  complaints are from people who think this person is trying to use the extra health as an advantage in fights
[16:46] Y.T. (yt.recreant) grins and reads twice
[16:46] Y.T. (yt.recreant): one sec :)
[16:46] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok... healers..
[16:46] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i think this is about healers, and also about melee
[16:47] Çððkïê (liljavai): its about explorers playing roles they are not
[16:47] Çððkïê (liljavai): for example
[16:47] Çððkïê (liljavai): an explorer is part of group full of rouges and fights as such but as an explorer
[16:47] Çððkïê (liljavai): but not a rouge but then has the extra health of an explorer
[16:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok, to balance that he has only 5 shots
[16:48] Çððkïê (liljavai): yes but unlimited if he kicks and punches
[16:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the main part that we will lok into at the next HUD release is: the reduction of kick and pucnh srenght
[16:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is on my list
[16:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and also disable them when downed
[16:48] Dig (digtheshark): yes
[16:48] Dig (digtheshark): yes, i had 1 week old rogue healer come and beat the ass out of me and Viv
[16:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we can also make explorers only have three shots, i am fine there
[16:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the fist and kick wil go weaker
[16:49] Çððkïê (liljavai): haha  well i was wondering about it as its been brought up to be a lot l
[16:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok :)
[16:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, Wang, i guess?
[16:50] Neo (neowhalen): ?
[16:50] Wang Ying (wangyingii): yes..., back to insults, etc /me has a situation "I was treated rudely in local and I responded 'eat your words or I will feed you to the crocs' and just jumped in the river and swam off..., end of story"
[16:50] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes, perfectly fine
[16:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[16:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok.. then.. Preostan
[16:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ?
[16:51] Preostan Scribe: ah, but the moment has passes. . x
[16:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): alrite :) Jemeka then?
[16:51] Dig (digtheshark): ?
[16:52] JeMeKa (dalegibbson): is there anyway to stop cheating in battle, detaching hud
[16:52] Daphne Mistwood: ?
[16:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you can at any time BUT NOT NOW click on your HUD "Check" and it will spam your screen (and ours) with a list of all peole wearing a HUD
[16:53] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you take your HUD off, it will take 1-5 minutes (depending on the region load) for the system to get a new one
[16:53] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, HUD cheaters are easily discovered
[16:53] JeMeKa (dalegibbson): k
[16:53] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Hanna?
[16:53] Preostan Scribe: ?
[16:53] Hanna Joubert (hannanell): I would like to be a supporter and settler, and I haven't found a seeker, can I expedite the process?
[16:53] Alana Ashbourne: ?
[16:53] Neo (neowhalen): ??
[16:54] iHex ducks
[16:54] Dig (digtheshark): hehehehe
[16:54] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Supprter, yes, Winter can fill you in IM right now
[16:54] Y.T. (yt.recreant): seeker, when you see one
[16:54] Y.T. (yt.recreant): thy are naked, slingshot
[16:54] Hanna Joubert (hannanell): ok
[16:54] Mяѕ Ɲιу Ʋαηινα Ƭαυяσg (niyuurie.vaniva): lays flat
[16:54] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i spot some here
[16:54] Kelv Beck: OOCly....
[16:54] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but wait till you see them downstiars :) IC only
[16:54] Hanna Joubert (hannanell): ok
[16:54] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Neo?
[16:55] Neo (neowhalen): ok sorry
[16:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[16:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[16:55] Daphne Mistwood: ?
[16:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the current list is  Neo, Dig, Daphne, Alana - right now it is Neos turn :)
[16:55] Neo (neowhalen): wat if ur a skilled explorer that has played in other realms of the grid and can actually down a person per say also if rp is to be like rl, and one can't controll how rl will go, how and we dictate rp'?
[16:56] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i do not understand the control part, can you explain please?
[16:57] Neo (neowhalen): well we want to Rp to the best of our knowledge but yet we cant control wat happens in this game
[16:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes, because otehrs want also to RP and it might clash - hence conflict
[16:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and conflict=RP :)
[16:57] Neo (neowhalen): exactly
[16:58] Neo (neowhalen): x ty
[16:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you're welcome :)
[16:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Dig?
[16:58] Dig (digtheshark): continuing on what cookie said, same situation with healers can be addressed too since they are now fist fighting and melee warriors (we have one too) but rp wise it doesn't make sense, one healer to beat 3 warriors alone, so please include that too. Suggestion on hud removal, region wide message that person removed hud can help stop lot of OOC trouble X
[16:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we wil make it that kicks an d pucnehs are weaker and downed people can't damage on melee at all
[16:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Daphne?
[16:59] Daphne Mistwood: Regarding the kick and melee, some roles are unable to use weapons w ammo, that would make that character more vulnerable when attacked if that is weakened
[16:59] Daphne Mistwood: so many complain about healers hp, I don't see an issue
[16:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i see your point but thanks to an oversight on my part...
[16:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a fist punch has as much damage on your body as knife stabbing
[17:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and that we need to adjust
[17:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): right now, in this version, you can kick and punch annd are withthat as powerful as with a dagger and a whip
[17:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that makes no sense :)
[17:00] Neo (neowhalen): smiles
[17:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant) coughs "itsabug" coughs
[17:01] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Alana?
[17:01] Alana Ashbourne: Combat goes through the HUD so if someone removed their HUD they couldn't attack anyone in here, correct?
[17:01] Y.T. (yt.recreant): they can't be attacked and can not attack, yes, correct and they get asap a new one forced attached
[17:02] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i think i have my ?-list empty, unless there is an oversight?
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[17:02] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok :)
[17:02] Alana Ashbourne: I'm usually last
[17:02] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :D
[17:03] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok, then we are done for today- i say Thank you - for your attention and your time. feel free to notecard and spread it and also to help those who are new at the amazon
[17:03] iHex: Thanks YT ^.^
[17:03] jarieth (felinajrc): muchas gracias
[17:03] felinajrc Resident: thank you
[17:03] ÇɦαĻίɕє Ƙ Çɦαɱρίoη (chalicek):    ★  : A҈   P҈   P҈   L҈  A҈  U҈  S҈   E҈ ❢ : A҈   P҈   P҈   L҈  A҈  U҈  S҈   E҈ ❢  ★
[17:03] Neo (neowhalen): heads for the Gym
[17:03] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smilese
[17:03] Çððkïê (liljavai): Thank you T.T muuuwah hehe
[17:03] Çððkïê (liljavai): ooo typ pf
[17:03] Preostan Scribe: dang gestures. .
[17:03] Y.T. (yt.recreant): mwaaaaaaak .)
[17:03] Çððkïê (liljavai): Y.T
[17:03] Çððkïê (liljavai): :D
[17:03] Dig (digtheshark) sits down and takes a deep breath, ommmmmmmm
[17:04] Kelv Beck: thank you!
[17:04] Wang Ying (wangyingii): ty YT
[17:04] Y.T. (yt.recreant): oooooooommmm :)
[17:04] Y.T. (yt.recreant): my pleasure !
[17:04] Winter (winterthyme): Thanks evryone for coming - and thanks to YT for a great talk!
[17:04] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): ohm
[17:04] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): smiles
[17:04] Çððkïê (liljavai): was awesome :D

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