Saturday, October 24, 2015


Now you can enjoy the Amazon River in SL in two flavours:

You do not want to participate in any combat
you will not be able to hunt animals
you can not be shot by other residents

You want the full flavour,
Capture Roleplay is an option for you
you want to hunt also animals

Your condition will be visible as dot above your head.

To change your condition, click your HUD; then the most right button, select "Condition"

Now, the fineprint:
I am aware that there is a small path left to exploit attacks from green dots to yellow dots under very special circumstances (read: not generally). We have not fixed this yet. To do this exploit you would have to be purposely green dotted and attack then yellow dots. This does not make you a hacker or a genius, but a griefer. And it will be handled as that (region ban).
I am about to fix this but three reasons made me release this version anyway already:
1. the feedback of this change was very much like "we want this, and we want this now!"
2. the script to catch this small gap will take a lot of work. so the new version would have come much later
3. we are all adults and only about fairplay. Right?

Have fun!

Sunday, October 11, 2015


As the blessings are not working out like planned, they are put on hold.  That means, within the ranks all have the same health and ammo level again.

The blessings that took place until today are still registered in the database and once the council decided what to do with them we will reactivate them. So if you have been blessed already, it is not forgotten. You just wont have any advantage from it at the moment.

Tuesday, October 6, 2015

Poisonous Spiders at Rio Grande!

Beware, if they bite you!

Fortunately HEALERS can now get an anti venom - and hold it in store, to help you. Healers who want to get ahold of this anti-venom need to go to the mouthpiece of the Gods.

Sunday, September 20, 2015

Amazon Changes Summarised

Summary of Changes

1. Roles

We now have two main roles - Explorer and Local - and a small number of specialist roles: Wildlife, Seeker, Shaman/Healer, Guard etc.

All Natives, Settlers, and Rogues are now "Locals" - and will be distinguished by their appearance, approach, and any local tribe/faction groups to which they belong.

2. Roleplay Rating/Seekers

You no longer need to find a Seeker for a new role (Native, Rogue, Settler) unless you want to be a Shaman/Healer or a Guard.

The HUD now allows you to rate the appearance, roleplay, and OOC/IC separation of those you interact with. You can rate people more than once, but only your final rating will be counted at the end of the month.

Those people who have very positive ratings will be visited by a Seeker and offered the blessing of additional Health Points or more ammo, whichever they prefer up to the maxim,um allowed (4 enhancements in any combination).  This means that your appearance, conduct and roleplay directly impact the amount of health and ammo you have.

Each month the person who receives the highest feedback ratings will be rewarded by the Gods with a a month's free rental at the Amazon (i.e. the right to build here), and their name will be recorded forever on a Wall of Fame.

Do not "Hate Rate" or "Mate Rate" or try to persuade/force people to rate you - the system monitors such activities and they will bring consequences!

3. Soup and Eating

Eating food to restore health has been simplified - the HUD will now allow you to rez individual food items directly, instead of making it in to soup first.

4. HUD Controls

The HUD design has changed - click the folded knife to open the HUD - the boxes are then: Folded Knife (open/close HUD) - Food Packet (eat) - Map (Local hints) - Biplane (Teleport links) - Hut (set/go home) - InfoBox (Health/Shots/Menu of options).

The HUD exercises much more control when you are downed

5. Miscellaneous

** The Gods are back in the jungle and walk among you.
**  The salutation 'greetings' is not liked by the Gods.
** New Mouthpiece of the Gods - allows you to report concerns etc. in a structured way to the Gods (max 250 chars.).

Sunday, September 13, 2015

Amazon Week of peace and truce

The deities spotted with great displeasure the growing aggression at the Amazon. For that reason, they announce now the week of peace. Guards will have 50 HP. Explorers 15 HP and 3 shots. regulars 10 shots.
Guards shall work for this week like UN blue helmet and monitor the peace. Violators shall be arrested in the cage.
Council leaders have to work out a bearable solution until next Sunday
if they fail, council leaders will work as naked barmaids for a week and truce gets extended

Monday, September 7, 2015

Sunday, September 6, 2015

HUD Update September 06

"Locations" removed - as voted on
"Home" removed - as voted on
Changes in "Bind" - when you are down and you are "bound" you can stand up again but not walk, no mouselook and not shoot. your "downtimer" will finish its 5 minutes, regardless
the only person that can shorten your downtime is a healer/shaman.

Friday, September 4, 2015

HUD Update September 05

Fixed BUG that renders multiple bubbles when downed
New "Down" bubble
Removed Screen "Keep Calm"

Friday, August 28, 2015

HUD Update 28 August

A minor update to the HUD will be released today to deal with issues around Health Points when fighting in the Arena.

Wednesday, August 26, 2015

HUD & other tweaks 26 August

A minor revision of the HUD was released today. The changes are:
  • Soup now gives 5 HP instead of the previous 2 (up to the maximum your role supports)
  • Drowning now gives additional 'warning time' to cope with lag.
Because some people developed that rare 'long arm syndrome' - you now need to be close to tradeitems to collect them.

Monday, August 24, 2015

HUD Update - 24 August

An update to the Amazon HUD will be released today.  The following adjustments have been made:

  • Health points on recovery
  • Food need each day
  • Damage of kicks/punches
  • Damage of melee
  • Message when downed.

Sunday, August 23, 2015

Roleplay Class - Sunday 23 August 2015

Here is the verbatim transcript of YT's Roleplay Class

[15:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): alright, thank you all for coming :)
[15:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): If you have questions, we require that you follow these steps:
 make a ? in public chat
 type ahead what you want to ask but do NOT send it
 wait till your name is called, then send what you wrote.
 This way we are keeping the flow.
[15:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, only a ? - then wait :)
[15:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in this RP class we will cover several topics, many of them geared to the Amazon, but also some valid everywhere
[15:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the class is not prefab, i  "type live"
[15:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, typos may occur


[15:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now. for the start, we look at the technicla setup, that you can do, to make your stay at the amazon most enjoyable
[15:07] Y.T. (yt.recreant): first off, you are here in an area with several regions. this is, from the viewer-aspect, quite important
[15:07] Y.T. (yt.recreant): many regions are that: one region. and all around them is the full wide Linden Ocean- in other words, nothing interesting
[15:07] Y.T. (yt.recreant): for the viewer to rezz, that is
[15:07] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, people can go around, happy with viewer settigns like "show me everything, and i mean eeeeverything, in 500 meters around me
[15:07] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a region is only 256 meters in square
[15:08] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, who cares
[15:08] Y.T. (yt.recreant): however, if you do this here, your viewer follows swift
[15:08] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and shows you eeeeverything - that means, it triues to rezz all items, avatars, textures etc, also on neighbouring regions
[15:08] Y.T. (yt.recreant): even if, from there you are standing, you can't see it
[15:09] Y.T. (yt.recreant): this effect influecnes your viewer much less nowadays, if you have the  latest SL viewer or the latest 3rd party viewer - (on 3rd party vierwers, check in their feature list, if they have 'project interesting' build in. FS has, kokua has, the otehrs I don't know
[15:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is the "codename" for avoiding to rezz things that you can't see anyway
[15:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): however, even with that. your performance wil be MUCH faster if your  draw distance is appropriate
[15:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): here, in the amazon, in addition to that, the amazon viewer anyway spams your screen if you try to cam out
[15:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): most of you have noticed, i hope
[15:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): to reduce draw distance, go to the preferences
[15:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and there graphics
[15:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): firestorm users can type "dd 96" in local chat
[15:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): also, in forestorm, if your viewer starts to lag, first "dd 0"  - that makes the drawdistance to 0 meters, you see not much then- wait 1-2 minutes
[15:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then do dd 96 to return to normal sight
[15:12] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you want, and you are in FS; try it out, type now    .... dd 0
[15:12] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then ... dd 96
[15:12] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you won't crash :)
[15:12] Y.T. (yt.recreant): another point is geared to NVIdia users... i found ages ago a website, i followed the hints there, and my performance improved greatly
[15:12] Y.T. (yt.recreant): let me dig the link
[15:13] Y.T. (yt.recreant):
[15:13] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the screenshots in that article are dated, the content is not
[15:13] Rhys Goode: ?
[15:13] Miyu Tatham: site cannot be loaded
[15:13] Y.T. (yt.recreant): only for NVIdia, mind you
[15:13] Y.T. (yt.recreant): aww
[15:13] Y.T. (yt.recreant): shucks
[15:14] Y.T. (yt.recreant): it is gone
[15:14] Y.T. (yt.recreant): R.I.P
[15:14] Erikk Xeltentat grins
[15:14] Y.T. (yt.recreant): err, scrap that then :)
[15:14] Kelv Beck: (wayback machine?)
[15:14] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yah maybe,. let me try
[15:14] Winter (winterthyme): RHys has a question
[15:14] Rhys Goode: I remember that optimization link, but it is dead now.
[15:14] Preostan Scribe: ?
[15:14] Rhys Goode: Not really a question.
[15:14] Y.T. (yt.recreant): very good!
[15:14] Y.T. (yt.recreant):
[15:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Rhys, you had a ?
[15:15] NM-210615: (F)  - relogged
[15:15] Rhys Goode: No, just wanted to point out that the link was dead.
[15:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok :)
[15:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Preo?
[15:15] Winter (winterthyme): Preo has one too
[15:15] Preostan Scribe: That link was too dated to be of much use anymore. . the terms have changed quite a bit.
[15:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yah but one gets the gist :)
[15:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so. summarizing:; do not run hogh ddraw distnace
[15:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and
[15:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the next point is:
[15:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): avoid sculpted hair and clothes
[15:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): sculpt, was the choice to make sutuff, until, like 2012 or so. it used a very exoitic, SL unique way for content creation
[15:17] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the workload to show the sculpt is nowadays slowing down the viewers a lot. they are all optimized to show mesh
[15:17] Y.T. (yt.recreant): mesh hair, mesh clothes
[15:17] Y.T. (yt.recreant): or, yes, of cours, normal prims and system clothes
[15:17] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but sculpt, is a perofrmance breaker, big time
[15:17] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, when you wear sculpt hair, your head is in the camera most of the time during the day
[15:18] Y.T. (yt.recreant): sop, you brign your lag always with you wherever you go :)
[15:18] Y.T. (yt.recreant): drop that ole sculpt hair :)
[15:18] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): ?
[15:18] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Melanie?
[15:18] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): Yes, Hi, Any hints on Singularity?
[15:18] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is the viewer which has serious trouble with EXP - the script sort we use here
[15:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we come to that in a moment
[15:19] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): ok ty :)
[15:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, back to amazon specifics, yes :)
[15:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): when you arrive here, you spotted, you msut wear a HUD; autoattach
[15:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the technology behind is called "Seamless Experience"
[15:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a new thing form LL
[15:20] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we can create with that all the fancy stuff, also like "walk into the gate at Glint and land at the skybox at lago marimba"
[15:20] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we have, seldom, users who have problems with that HUD, and attaching
[15:20] Erikk Xeltentat smiles remembering glint
[15:20] Y.T. (yt.recreant): on each and every case in the last year we have this running we had always eitehr one of these two problems as cause identified:
[15:21] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you are using eitehr singularity - really, i do not mind about that viewer, i am not bahshing it, but we had it "youuse singularity? switch viewer - oh, it works"
[15:21] Y.T. (yt.recreant): or you had more than 32 attachments
[15:21] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and people get there fast
[15:21] iHex: :D
[15:21] Y.T. (yt.recreant): mind you; mesh body, mesh boobs, hud here, weapon ther,e hair , mesh clothes..l.
[15:21] Y.T. (yt.recreant): as soon as you have 32 attachments - full
[15:21] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, check these two things, and you are good to go
[15:22] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now  that was the tech talk :) light, a bit simpliified - if you are a preofessional IT person, bear with it :)
[15:22] Y.T. (yt.recreant): any ? ?
[15:22] Y.T. (yt.recreant): none - good - next topic :)
[15:23] Rhys Goode: erm. sim lag in glint was clearly the cause, the first two time I tried to come here. Sometimes it is *really* bad.
[15:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Make a ? next time beforehand please :) then i am aware and wait
[15:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): thank you for your comment though :)
[15:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): good - next topic :)


[15:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the Roleplay at the amazon
[15:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we have one level that fits them all who come here in the start: explorer
[15:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): people with amazon explorer tag have 2 more Health Points than the "Normal" roles, but less shots
[15:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): they get a bit the "puppy status" as they are new and need to find their way
[15:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): also, really, yes, people come here to take pictures only
[15:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, as long as explorers do not attack you, treat them gentle
[15:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): however, yes, they are never off limits
"AFK" and no"BUSY" - i will explainthe OC part in a it
[15:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): *bit
[15:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): as soon as you are int he forest, you are a valid part of the forest
[15:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we are not a zoo
[15:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we have no observers
[15:26] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and if anyone claims that, yah, they just earn to be shot - so they understand they are not
[15:26] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but be gentle when you shoot them :)
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now when you are explorer, and you want to expereince here more, but ALSO for many  i met recently who have a tag already other than explorer...
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we are going to address the two most imortant terms: OOC and IC
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Out of Character
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): In Character
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is essential for everyone here to get this
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you fail to understand this, OOC and IC; youa re totes lost
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so...
[15:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): OOC as part 1
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Out Of Charcater" is you the "Person behind hte keyboard"
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): OOC you are sitting on a comfy chair, right now
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you are reading mwhat i write rite now
[15:28] Troll Parnall nods
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): OOC is your real you
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we are here right now all OOC
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in OOC i have all the comfort of my Real Life BUT
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i also have all my comofrt of my viewer
[15:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i can read your name tags
[15:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i know all your names and who is around on my radar
[15:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and i can teleport
[15:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and i have a viwer .. etc
[15:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is all OOC
[15:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and how we sit here togetzher is OOC too
[15:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): to make this clear what it means, now let me explain what is IC
[15:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): IC i i am right now a pale skinend spritewhatever with gren tail and pointed ears
[15:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): do i have a green tail in RL?
[15:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): probably not
[15:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so.
[15:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if i am IC, in the forst, "downstairs" and you see me there...
[15:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then IC means also "Make believe" .-
[15:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): think back of the days when you were kids and you played "bandits and police officer" or "House"
[15:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you "made believe"
[15:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you made believe that John from the neighbourhouse is the sheriff
[15:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you made believe that your classmate Kathy is now the grandma..
[15:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in here, Roleplay is much the same
[15:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, if i would meet you, in the forest, for the first time...
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i would not say "Hello Rhys"
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): because, i would "make believe" that i have no name tags
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that i have no radar
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that i need to gather my information like it would be if it was real
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in RL Rhys has no name tag above the head
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, if i want to know the name i do what?
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i ask
[15:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): here, i do the same
[15:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now i want to tel you a classical approach to a seeker - which i saw sadly a lot lately
[15:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a female, human shape, walked up to me, i never saw her before
[15:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "Hello YT" (wrong approach, see above)
[15:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "i want a new Tag" (wrong, there are no tags in RP)
[15:34] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "i want to be an animal" (wrong, animals do not talk to begin with, and the shape was human)
[15:34] Y.T. (yt.recreant): she did not get the tag
[15:34] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you want to enjyo RP, imerse yourself
[15:34] Y.T. (yt.recreant): try to feel yourself
[15:35] Y.T. (yt.recreant): immerse yourself
[15:35] Y.T. (yt.recreant): try to "feel" yourself
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): try to feel how it would be if you really were naked (as native) or really in simple clothes (as settler)
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and go from there


[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then, we come now to the encounters, in Roleplay
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you meet someone in RP it could go like this, (bad sample!):
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): A: Hi
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): B Hi
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): A: How are you?
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): B. Fine, good, but this lag today...
[15:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant) groans
[15:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is so painful, i run when i hear such :)
[15:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): first off, be descirptive and emote
[15:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): emote comes from expressing what you would feel
[15:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so try for example this
[15:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smiles and looks at the other person "Hello there"
[15:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you see, there is an emotion as well as eye contact
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you can emote siomple with /me in the start ofthe line
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so like /me smiles
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that makes
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smilese
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): whtout typo of course
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smiles and looks around
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, the sample above could go:
[15:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a: smiles at B and admires their outfit "hi, this looks pretty, my name is A
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): b: smiles back "why thank you, name is B...
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok this is sstil very simple, but, you get the idea
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, the "i am fine,  but lag...
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): why is that bad?
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): because, lag is OOC
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): hell if you really want to man about "lag" then wrap it at least nicer intop IC
[15:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): like "i am fine, but somewhat my legs  do not carry me so fast like i wnat
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you have bongo drums
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you have dancers
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the mood is all rainforest
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and suddenly it goes
[15:40] Wang Ying (wangyingii): ?
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): A: i crashed...
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): A: crashed
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): B. "Welcome back A
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): C. welcome back A
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): D hi A, wb
[15:40] Rhys Goode: ?
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): A: yah the new viewer...
[15:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): etc
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that bteaks every mood totally
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so we had two ?
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): wang first
[15:41] Winter (winterthyme): Wang
[15:41] Wang Ying (wangyingii) wonders "when do you use 1st person and when 3rd person in the emote?"
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ah there you do it as you like..
[15:41] Troll Parnall Pounces his Prey
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in the first place, your emotes are your style
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, some examples of what i have seen for emotes:
[15:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant) bounces her prey
[15:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant) would bounce her prey
[15:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smiles and i bounce my prey
[15:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant) looks at the prey and says "Hey you!
[15:42] Troll Parnall: rawr
[15:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant) would look and then i smile at the prey "hey u
[15:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yah i know, some come loike "No textspk, duh"
[15:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but, hey, it is your freedom to express yourself like you want
[15:42] Ĵûʂʈäиυʈɦą  Ƙυɳʈ™ (enya.toros): Does my Avi look depressed Mel? ..xD
[15:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): sometimes i play a blonde valley girl.. then i totes all like use u n r n shit :D

[15:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): does that answer your queastion, Wang?
[15:43] Wang Ying (wangyingii): yes ty
[15:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok :)
[15:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and Rhys
[15:43] Rhys Goode: I know you are really donw on OOC chatter here, you make that clear at the wisdom cave.? And a good thing, too.But sometimes, RL intervenes with no warning. And you *have* to go. Isn't an ((OOC)) message appropriate, then? Or if there is a different way to do it here, I'll gladly follow the custom.

[15:44] jarieth (felinajrc): ?
[15:44] felinajrc Resident: ?
[15:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes sure. i mean, if you are in "action" and you know, you have to fall silent now for x minutes or even log, sure say briefly "RL" or somesuch...
[15:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is just polite :)
[15:44] Rhys Goode nods
[15:44] Rhys Goode: seems to me too, thanks
[15:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): what is unsettling is the "wb" orgy on each small interruption...
[15:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i have had camp fire partys at tribes whree , no kidding, every 15 minutes there was 10 minutes "Hello" and "bye" and "wb"
[15:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[15:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that was more like a club
[15:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i was just waiting for "lol" and "gtsy"
[15:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Jarieth?
[15:46] Preostan Scribe: ?
[15:46] jarieth (felinajrc): gracias, de las tribus que he conocido solo en una vi una extraña costumbre
[15:46] felinajrc Resident: thanks, tribes I have met only a saw a strange habit
[15:46] jarieth (felinajrc): debo viajar al mundo de lso espiritus, es una manera elegante de decir debo volver a la realidad
[15:46] felinajrc Resident: I travel to the world of spirits lso, is a fancy way of saying I must return to reality
[15:46] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is a good way too!
[15:46] jarieth (felinajrc): pero algo negativo es que todo el mundo me dice hola jarieth
[15:46] felinajrc Resident: but a negative is that everyone says hello jarieth
[15:46] jarieth (felinajrc): pero nadie sabe quien soy ni de donde vengo
[15:47] felinajrc Resident: but nobody knows who I am or where I come from
[15:47] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes ! that is what i mean. that is.. disturbing - yes !
[15:47] Winter (winterthyme): Preo had a question too
[15:47] Preostan Scribe: is there hard jail time for gesture abuse?
[15:47] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is why really, i announced it a few days ago in chat... if people  say my name without having met me ICly..  i wil lshoot them down for using voodoo magic
[15:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i would recommend to everyone to do the same
[15:48] Rhys Goode: hehe
[15:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Gestures - yah, icky.. same, voodoo magic, shootem
[15:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): more ?
[15:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok :)
[15:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then you know now...
[15:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a.) IC you are the role you picked to be
[15:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): b.) you try ICly to gather the informations
[15:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): c.) emote emote emote
[15:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and an example on the fun of RP and IC and gather info...
[15:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i have it sometimes, that i meet a guy,.. his nametag, OOC is maybe, for example "paul"
[15:50] Wang Ying (wangyingii): ?
[15:50] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and i ask him, in RP; IC; "what is your name?" and he replies "Karl"
[15:50] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then, if somethign "Happens" in the RP i would say later "Karl" did that to me!
[15:50] Y.T. (yt.recreant): like, in RL, you would, if you had bad intentions, also not give your real name :D
[15:50] Y.T. (yt.recreant): this is one of many examples how RP and IC can enhance the fun
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): this is a stage
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and you can be what you want to be
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you can dare


[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): this brings me to the next part, the roles you can pick here
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we have native and settler
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then rogue
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): shaman and healer
[15:51] Winter (winterthyme): Wang had a question
[15:51] Wang Ying (wangyingii) wonders "has anybody ever written a storyline for multiple IC players?
[15:52] Troll Parnall raises a paw
[15:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): I don't know Wang :) it may well be
[15:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Troll?
[15:52] Troll Parnall: murawr rawr arwrr murr rawrs?
[15:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): shaman and healer
[15:51] Winter (winterthyme): Wang had a question
[15:51] Wang Ying (wangyingii) wonders "has anybody ever written a storyline for multiple IC players?
[15:52] Troll Parnall raises a paw
[15:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): I don't know Wang :) it may well be
[15:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Troll?
[15:52] Troll Parnall: murawr rawr arwrr murr rawrs?
[15:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ((excuse me 2 minutes, while Winter can eitehr tanslate Troll or explain the extra roles, seeker and guard :)
[15:52] Troll Parnall: :P what about wildlife
[15:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): brb
[15:52] Neo (neowhalen): grins that was a mouthfull
[15:53] Winter (winterthyme): Troll did you have a question?
[15:53] Troll Parnall shakes his head now.
[15:53] Troll Parnall: no even
[15:53] Winter (winterthyme): ok :
[15:54] Winter (winterthyme): As YT was saying we have a variety of Roles
[15:54] Winter (winterthyme): includign Wildlife :-)
[15:54] Troll Parnall does the happy cat dance
[15:54] Winter (winterthyme): One important thing when considering which Amazon role you want to adopt is to think how well it 'fits' with you - as the OOC person
[15:55] Winter (winterthyme): Troll please keep side comments out as it is very distracting
[15:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so. yes, fits you as OOC
[15:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): meaning:
[15:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you are a timid,shy one in RL...
[15:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and not very outspoken here too...
[15:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then for example "Rogue" is NOT your role that you want
[15:56] Y.T. (yt.recreant): on the other hand, if you have "poor impulse control" and are a bit.. fast in.. being confrontational...
[15:56] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then you maybe do NOT want to be a healer
[15:56] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you will find yourself comfortable in a role that fits your RL character..
[15:56] Y.T. (yt.recreant): as we seldom can overcome our RL habits

[15:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): on the other hand, IC and OOC means also, detach yourself from the RL self a bit
[15:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): here an example:
[15:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if i am roleplaying with you, in the forest, and maybe - you capture me
[15:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i wil curse maybe
[15:57] Zyanya Cualli (kqwerfellow): ?
[15:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i wil lmaybe call you names
[15:57] Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): wow
[15:57] Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): teleportation
[15:57] Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): neat
[15:57] Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): ah ah
[15:57] Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): yea
[15:57] Ĵûʂʈäиυʈɦą  Ƙυɳʈ™ (enya.toros): that makes you a bitch in reality Mel ..lmfao ))
[15:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i will even call you really bad names
[15:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): btu that is all roleplay
[15:58] Amazon River HUD V0.99b beta: you can not carry more shots. Full.
[15:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if i meet you OOCly, or if i call you names here in this classroom now, then it is NOT roleplay, then it is even an insult
[15:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, what i observe a lot.. not here only but in every region, where roleplay takes palec...
[15:58] Neo (neowhalen): ?
[15:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): people have trouble to differ between IC and OOC
[15:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): there is the rogue who attacks a healer
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then it goes on
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in Amazon chat
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "OMG i HAVE BEEN SHOT !!!11!!
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then in the IM of the rogue
[15:59] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): she called me a bitch
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "YOU BASTARD SHOT ME
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): etc
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then eventually it shows up in my IMS "john doe shot me, ban him!!!
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and ther, all i can say is
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): people
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): relax
[15:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): John Doe wanted to roleplay with you
[16:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and yah, he shot you... but your piceldoll
[16:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): not you in RL
[16:00] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi) raises her hand
[16:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, relax, say oooom, and smile
[16:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now there were many questions
[16:00] Winter (winterthyme): Zyanya first
[16:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Zyanaya
[16:00] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): ?
[16:00] Zyanya Cualli (kqwerfellow): What if you have ADHD? what be a good role
[16:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): rogue
[16:00] Zyanya Cualli (kqwerfellow): ty
[16:01] Amazon River HUD V0.99b beta: you can not carry more shots. Full.
[16:01] Troll Parnall: doh
[16:01] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Neo?
[16:01] Winter (winterthyme): Neo
[16:01] Neo (neowhalen): wat if there is a language barrier ?
[16:01] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok...
[16:01] Neo (neowhalen): and neither could understand the next
[16:01] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if there is IC roleplay, and it leads to misunderstandigns and frrustration, a good idea is always, to swithc to IM and to sort it out there...
[16:01] Y.T. (yt.recreant): however
[16:02] Y.T. (yt.recreant): of course, if people are not able to understand your language, it is perfectly fine, to google the translation and to write via google translate "look, this makes no sense, you do not understand me, i do not understand you, let us play with other people
[16:03] Y.T. (yt.recreant): coz, it really makes no sense
[16:03] Neo (neowhalen): Ty
[16:03] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[16:03] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and.. Melanie
[16:04] jarieth (felinajrc): ?
[16:04] felinajrc Resident: ?
[16:04] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): so to make sure , IC: it's like me hating Viv, cause she was bullying Bri at her home, and when I yell "Viv you are a bitch" and sometimes "Enya you are a bitch too cause you had more guys than me" that IC
[16:04] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes but here also:
[16:04] Y.T. (yt.recreant): try to keep it in local chat
[16:04] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): because I do talk to Viv at her bar, and we drink and chill, that's OCC
[16:04] Y.T. (yt.recreant): not everyone understands such ongoing in amazon chat
[16:04] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, do these things in local
[16:04] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): so do say that but in local
[16:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes, and keep in mind:
[16:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): outside the local chat, and especially in IM...
[16:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you are *always* respectful, no matter how often the other one downed you
[16:05] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we are not here to give ius grief in RL
[16:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we are here to have fun and if the RP is no fun, one can say that in IM; polite
[16:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): aggression always calls up more agression
[16:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Khaliesi
[16:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ?
[16:06] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): ty
[16:06] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): i have a question about im and amazon chat
[16:06] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): ok two
[16:06] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): lol
[16:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[16:06] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): so amazon chat
[16:06] Y.T. (yt.recreant): sure
[16:07] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): i have seen so many differnt things....ooc ic...i get really confused as to what it is actually for
[16:07] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): is that a "group rp"
[16:07] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): or for chit chat
[16:07] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): that is the first one
[16:07] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): lol
[16:07] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): the second is about im
[16:08] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): so if someone is off line, i find it frustrating for someone to leave them an offline message in character.  i have received them and been totally caught off guard and confused.  it actually led me to be a bit upset.  i wanted to know what are your thoughts on that
[16:09] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok, then first the amazo chat...
[16:09] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the amazon chat is mainly to organize things, to appoint things, but also a social hang out. we are all social people and it is in our nature to chit chat about the weather and whatnot.
[16:09] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): ok
[16:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i have seen regions trying to confine such chatrooms to "IC only" and they died, as that jars with the nature of people
[16:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): it is a chatterbox
[16:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and i step in if it gets too far off topic from amazon
[16:10] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): ty.  i was confused when i saw the rp in there.  lol
[16:10] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but i don't take any announcement in there too much ICly serious
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok :)
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): as for IM
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): IM is almost always OOC
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): for the person behind hte keyboard
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): exceptions are ...
[16:11] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): yeah not what i meant
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so i could write you IM OOCly "hi, have been waiting, going now
[16:11] Y.T. (yt.recreant): or i write ICly "/me leaves a note on your desk.. saying....."
[16:12] Y.T. (yt.recreant): or what do you mean?
[16:12] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): i understand those examples and agree.  :)
[16:12] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): if there is an interruption in a rp
[16:13] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): im talking about i log into a long im from someone telling me sometthing that is total rp, but can be confused as not rp.
[16:13] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): confusing i am sorry but example
[16:14] Wang Ying (wangyingii): ?
[16:14] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): "you tresspassed on my camp and you were seen doing so, now you own 200 coins.  you have about 5 days to pay this or else"
[16:14] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): if someone logs into that
[16:14] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): and has no clue what is evne going on
[16:14] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): it can be misconstured.  ((im trying to not say names.  lol""
[16:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smiles "i would assume first that the talk is about coins. and so, it must be IC.. but, yah, that is a strange way to approach it.. however. what i learned for myself, from the past, as being roleplayer but also running my shop.. ...
[16:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i try hard to not assume but first to ask back as neutral as possible
[16:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): like
[16:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "was that OOC or IC?"
[16:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and then go from there with the answer
16:15] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): ok.  tyvm
[16:15] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if it was ooc, i would bin it
[16:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if it was IC i would laugh it off and bin it too :)
[16:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but i would make sure, they would hear me laugh :D
[16:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Jarieth?
[16:16] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): haha.  thank you
[16:16] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you're welcome :)
[16:16] jarieth (felinajrc): gracias, primero el idioma no es problema
[16:16] felinajrc Resident: thanks first language is not a problem
[16:16] jarieth (felinajrc): uso un mal traductorpero ayuda a comprender
[16:16] felinajrc Resident: Use a bad traductorpero helps to understand
[16:17] jarieth (felinajrc): segundo algunas personas olvidan que es la selva, y gritan diciendo este es mi hogar, es como estar en un parque y decir que ese es tu banca
[16:17] felinajrc Resident: second some people forget that it is the jungle, screaming and saying this is my home, it's like being in a park and say that's your banking
[16:18] jarieth (felinajrc): tambien hay quienes cometen errores, como alguien me asesino seguro sin querer al arrojarme al rio con las manos atads
[16:18] felinajrc Resident: there are also those who make mistakes, as someone inadvertently insurance murderer me to throw myself into the river with hands atads
[16:18] jarieth (felinajrc): obvio hud de nado off, asi que no digan porque se suicido???
[16:18] felinajrc Resident: hud obvious swim off, so do not say that he committed suicide ???
[16:18] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smiles
[16:19] jarieth (felinajrc) whispers: y ultima observacion, si eres un depredador, un picaro, no des de baja para luego portarte como un don juan romantico, eso confunde, eres de los buenos o de los malos???
[16:19] felinajrc Resident: and final point, if you're a predator, a rogue, do not give low and then act like a Don Juan romantic, that confused, are of good or bad ???
[16:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): YES !
[16:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): here also the call for those who want a rogue role or such...
[16:19] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you ask the seeker nicely for it, forget it
[16:20] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a rogue is not a rogue for beign nice
[16:20] Y.T. (yt.recreant): thank you Jarieth...
[16:20] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Wang?
[16:20] Wang Ying (wangyingii): yes..., a bit out of context now
[16:21] Wang Ying (wangyingii) finds "sometimes I have taken IC from local to IM because you don't want to sext there and then we have an agreement that OOC is always framed in (( )) [this could be any convetion you agree on] "
[16:22] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i understand that "the secks" in local chat is not everyones cup of tea..  how you agree on that with your pla ypartner is of course your business :) but chat is really more real :D
[16:22] Y.T. (yt.recreant): as roleplay place admin i see it from this point.
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you go to places that are really packed, and not roleplay areas...
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): for example "Gor HUB" or "Temple of the OpenCollar"
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you see tons of people standing around
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): in IM
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): dead drop boring
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we can't have boring :)
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and it is unrealistiic that you and i talk and no one hears it
[16:23] Y.T. (yt.recreant): or that you sit 200 meters away from me...
[16:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and whisper in my ear
[16:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, in a roleplay area (not only her, but almost everywhere) try to keep as much as possible inchat
[16:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): more ?


[16:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok
[16:24] Wang Ying (wangyingii): ty
[16:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the next part is the conflilct
[16:24] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you're welcome :)
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): roleplay is about conflict
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): often
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): like, you want an item
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you want a spot
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you ant someones attention
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): etc
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you *want*
[16:25] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): ?
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and others are your obstacles to overcome
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you need them otehrs to make them *want* your wish
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you can be nice about it
[16:25] Y.T. (yt.recreant): or less nice
[16:26] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is alone your call
[16:26] Y.T. (yt.recreant): melanie?
[16:26] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): I was presented the other day the name of "Gor" and honestly I don't understand it, people say it's gor what we do in here, some others dont and I dont even understand what is it
[16:26] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a Gor.. is.. different :) i do not want to bash it, so i zip it .)
[16:26] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): I was wondering since you mentioned it, maybe you could explain it.. :/
[16:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): maybe another day . it would exceed the time today
[16:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so.. let us go back to conflict :)
[16:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a conflict can be done with words - or with weapons
[16:27] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): yus
[16:27] ᵐᶤˢˢᴍᴇʟᴀɴɪᴇʰ (melanie.hareshide): ty :D
[16:27] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[16:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we have chosen here to go by a metered combat, that means a HUD monitors your weapons
[16:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): other regions use "dices", yes, they really throw a dice to decide the outcome
[16:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): again others only rely on text
[16:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but what they all have in common is:
[16:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): some people can not lose
[16:28] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "i lost? no way, you cheated!!"
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): here, at amazon, throw in also at will...
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "you took off your HUD
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "you used shields
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "the HUD sucks
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "the region sucks
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "thanks Obama!
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): what people who can not lose - miss in the first place is:
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): this is not a competiton
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you are not out to win a race
[16:29] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you won't get a medal
[16:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you "lost" a battle, you are just on the other side of the Roleplay
[16:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): remember my example of "childhood, roleplay with your neighbours on the street"?
[16:30] jarieth (felinajrc): shu gato shu
[16:30] felinajrc Resident: Cat shu shu
[16:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): there, groups were formed like "A,b and C are now the white hats, and D, E, F are the black hats"
[16:30] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and uf you were C and badly wanted to play the black hats for once and were noot chosen..
[16:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you eventually threw a fit and stomped your feet and marched off
[16:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that was, when you were a kid
[16:31] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now when you are downed - it means exactly that; you get a role, for this one RP, that you maybe did bnot anticipate. you are the "victim" inthis moment, not the agressor
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): funny though, the above mentioend outbursts then are pretty much like them kids on the streets
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "you loser, you cheater, the HUD sucks"
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): is exactly the same
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): like stomping and pouting
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we don't take any of that
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is why we do not moderate
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you "Lost"; you get roleplay
[16:32] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you are here to roleplay
[16:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you only want to rolelplay exactly the role that you anticipaited and with all people behaving like you picuterd it beforehand...
[16:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then you maybe do not want to RP but rather want to write a book, wher you can form ficitonal characters
[16:33] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): amen to that
[16:33] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): lol
[16:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but here,. your other characters "In game" are also having their ideas, wants, neds, wishes, they conflict with oyurs
[16:33] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and *that* is the fun!
[16:34] Y.T. (yt.recreant): questions here?
[16:34] Dig (digtheshark): ?
[16:34] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Dig, shoot :)
[16:35] Dig (digtheshark): what about the forced rp like we had a conflict earlier that lead to lot of OOC noise and i left until it was resolved by others; then one person threatened me in IM to come for rp or she'll get me banned blah blah; how to rp in such situations
[16:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): it is hard to stay calm. good roleplay carries one away.  emotions can fly high...
[16:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so here is what i do, or try to do... then...
[16:36] Rotty (rottonny): ?
[16:36] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if i , myself am annoyed.. i eitehr walk my dog in RL first.. or i yell at Winter in IM how stupid they all are.. .. i vent..
[16:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then when my mood is back to somewhat manageable, i IM them...
[16:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the other way ...
[16:37] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if someone suddenly flares up in my IM; uncalled for, without warning..
[16:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i also try to not assume but to ask first "what do you mean?" or "what upsets you?"
[16:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): first and most important is to find out *what+ is the reason for the temper outburst
[16:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then one can resolve that
[16:38] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i also agree... that some people are nt able to put it into words what they feel
[16:39] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): how can they just say "i'll have you banned"
[16:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): they yell at me , i am called bitch, cunt, whatever, really (for roleplay or managing the region, does not matter)
[16:39] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): seems kinda silly
[16:39] Çððkïê (liljavai): ?
[16:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): then when they do that, yah, i arrest them and make fun of them till they eitehr fully freak out and leave or til they calm down
[16:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, you can't arrest them Dig..
[16:39] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): giggles
[16:39] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so i would tell them coldly...
[16:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "i am going to killban you now for an hour, then i block you on top and if you write a noce NC as apology to my partenr and he/she forwards it tio me i wil reconsider this)
[16:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): really
[16:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): blocking is such a nice way to get peace, because hey, these are "other RPers" and if they can't behave and make you mad, why spend time with them?
[16:40] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but first, really try to sort it out in IM
[16:41] Rotty (rottonny): ?
[16:41] Dig (digtheshark): well, i encouraged her to report it to you
[16:41] Dig (digtheshark): :)
[16:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ah i am not a oderator, and most reports i really don't read. it often goes when W and i meet inthe mornign "have you read this NC?" he asks and my reply is "Nope"
[16:41] Y.T. (yt.recreant): coz, i delted it
[16:41] Winter (winterthyme): true dat
[16:41] Wang Ying (wangyingii): ?
[16:42] Y.T. (yt.recreant): soo rotty?
[16:42] Rotty (rottonny): ty
[16:42] Rotty (rottonny): if a woman refuses to be raped and lets her captive know this....but he does she rp out of it?
[16:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): there are several ways
[16:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): one is "fade to black" means, let him have fun with my pixelself while i surf the web
[16:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): he won't get any response durign that act
[16:43] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the other is, to make clear to him in IM that this and that won't fly
[16:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): an if he ignores it, to TP away. however.. here also, key is:
[16:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): do NOT freak out. ALWAYS be polite
[16:44] JeMeKa (dalegibbson): Is there anyway you guys can stop people from cheating, detaching hud during RP?
[16:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): "hey you mofo stop that shit" will not sit as well as "please do not do that now, i do not like that, i will TP out if you do not stop"
[16:44] Neo (neowhalen): ?
[16:44] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Jemeka, keep the order please, make a ? and wait till you are called
[16:44] Rotty (rottonny): nods
[16:45] Rotty (rottonny): ty
[16:45] Preostan Scribe: ?
[16:45] JeMeKa (dalegibbson): ?
[16:45] Hanna Joubert (hannanell): ?
[16:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, TP away is cool, if you were polite beforehand
[16:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes
[16:45] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, i believe, cookie
[16:45] Çððkïê (liljavai): i am wondering about something were I've heard some people complain about  someone  were  they are explorers yet a supporter and taking part in the rp life and being part of a group full of rouges ... I've had many complaints about this but  as this person  is the highest in health in that group part from say healers.. many find this unfair ..  im wondering if there is something that could be done to fix that? say for example if you are explorer you are explorer till you get different role but if you become supporter your automatically part of rp life of amazon and there for wont have explorer  anymore but will simply be supporter with same health as anyone else till you find the role you want to play as..or something like that .. also there have been  complaints are from people who think this person is trying to use the extra health as an advantage in fights
[16:46] Y.T. (yt.recreant) grins and reads twice
[16:46] Y.T. (yt.recreant): one sec :)
[16:46] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok... healers..
[16:46] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i think this is about healers, and also about melee
[16:47] Çððkïê (liljavai): its about explorers playing roles they are not
[16:47] Çððkïê (liljavai): for example
[16:47] Çððkïê (liljavai): an explorer is part of group full of rouges and fights as such but as an explorer
[16:47] Çððkïê (liljavai): but not a rouge but then has the extra health of an explorer
[16:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok, to balance that he has only 5 shots
[16:48] Çððkïê (liljavai): yes but unlimited if he kicks and punches
[16:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the main part that we will lok into at the next HUD release is: the reduction of kick and pucnh srenght
[16:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that is on my list
[16:48] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and also disable them when downed
[16:48] Dig (digtheshark): yes
[16:48] Dig (digtheshark): yes, i had 1 week old rogue healer come and beat the ass out of me and Viv
[16:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we can also make explorers only have three shots, i am fine there
[16:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the fist and kick wil go weaker
[16:49] Çððkïê (liljavai): haha  well i was wondering about it as its been brought up to be a lot l
[16:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok :)
[16:49] Y.T. (yt.recreant): now, Wang, i guess?
[16:50] Neo (neowhalen): ?
[16:50] Wang Ying (wangyingii): yes..., back to insults, etc /me has a situation "I was treated rudely in local and I responded 'eat your words or I will feed you to the crocs' and just jumped in the river and swam off..., end of story"
[16:50] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes, perfectly fine
[16:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[16:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok.. then.. Preostan
[16:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ?
[16:51] Preostan Scribe: ah, but the moment has passes. . x
[16:51] Y.T. (yt.recreant): alrite :) Jemeka then?
[16:51] Dig (digtheshark): ?
[16:52] JeMeKa (dalegibbson): is there anyway to stop cheating in battle, detaching hud
[16:52] Daphne Mistwood: ?
[16:52] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you can at any time BUT NOT NOW click on your HUD "Check" and it will spam your screen (and ours) with a list of all peole wearing a HUD
[16:53] Y.T. (yt.recreant): if you take your HUD off, it will take 1-5 minutes (depending on the region load) for the system to get a new one
[16:53] Y.T. (yt.recreant): so, HUD cheaters are easily discovered
[16:53] JeMeKa (dalegibbson): k
[16:53] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Hanna?
[16:53] Preostan Scribe: ?
[16:53] Hanna Joubert (hannanell): I would like to be a supporter and settler, and I haven't found a seeker, can I expedite the process?
[16:53] Alana Ashbourne: ?
[16:53] Neo (neowhalen): ??
[16:54] iHex ducks
[16:54] Dig (digtheshark): hehehehe
[16:54] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Supprter, yes, Winter can fill you in IM right now
[16:54] Y.T. (yt.recreant): seeker, when you see one
[16:54] Y.T. (yt.recreant): thy are naked, slingshot
[16:54] Hanna Joubert (hannanell): ok
[16:54] Mяѕ Ɲιу Ʋαηινα Ƭαυяσg (niyuurie.vaniva): lays flat
[16:54] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i spot some here
[16:54] Kelv Beck: OOCly....
[16:54] Y.T. (yt.recreant): but wait till you see them downstiars :) IC only
[16:54] Hanna Joubert (hannanell): ok
[16:54] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Neo?
[16:55] Neo (neowhalen): ok sorry
[16:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[16:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :)
[16:55] Daphne Mistwood: ?
[16:55] Y.T. (yt.recreant): the current list is  Neo, Dig, Daphne, Alana - right now it is Neos turn :)
[16:55] Neo (neowhalen): wat if ur a skilled explorer that has played in other realms of the grid and can actually down a person per say also if rp is to be like rl, and one can't controll how rl will go, how and we dictate rp'?
[16:56] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i do not understand the control part, can you explain please?
[16:57] Neo (neowhalen): well we want to Rp to the best of our knowledge but yet we cant control wat happens in this game
[16:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): yes, because otehrs want also to RP and it might clash - hence conflict
[16:57] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and conflict=RP :)
[16:57] Neo (neowhalen): exactly
[16:58] Neo (neowhalen): x ty
[16:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): you're welcome :)
[16:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Dig?
[16:58] Dig (digtheshark): continuing on what cookie said, same situation with healers can be addressed too since they are now fist fighting and melee warriors (we have one too) but rp wise it doesn't make sense, one healer to beat 3 warriors alone, so please include that too. Suggestion on hud removal, region wide message that person removed hud can help stop lot of OOC trouble X
[16:58] Y.T. (yt.recreant): we wil make it that kicks an d pucnehs are weaker and downed people can't damage on melee at all
[16:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Daphne?
[16:59] Daphne Mistwood: Regarding the kick and melee, some roles are unable to use weapons w ammo, that would make that character more vulnerable when attacked if that is weakened
[16:59] Daphne Mistwood: so many complain about healers hp, I don't see an issue
[16:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i see your point but thanks to an oversight on my part...
[16:59] Y.T. (yt.recreant): a fist punch has as much damage on your body as knife stabbing
[17:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): and that we need to adjust
[17:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): right now, in this version, you can kick and punch annd are withthat as powerful as with a dagger and a whip
[17:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant): that makes no sense :)
[17:00] Neo (neowhalen): smiles
[17:00] Y.T. (yt.recreant) coughs "itsabug" coughs
[17:01] Y.T. (yt.recreant): Alana?
[17:01] Alana Ashbourne: Combat goes through the HUD so if someone removed their HUD they couldn't attack anyone in here, correct?
[17:01] Y.T. (yt.recreant): they can't be attacked and can not attack, yes, correct and they get asap a new one forced attached
[17:02] Y.T. (yt.recreant): i think i have my ?-list empty, unless there is an oversight?
[17:02] Second Life: Items successfully shared.
[17:02] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok :)
[17:02] Alana Ashbourne: I'm usually last
[17:02] Y.T. (yt.recreant): :D
[17:03] Y.T. (yt.recreant): ok, then we are done for today- i say Thank you - for your attention and your time. feel free to notecard and spread it and also to help those who are new at the amazon
[17:03] iHex: Thanks YT ^.^
[17:03] jarieth (felinajrc): muchas gracias
[17:03] felinajrc Resident: thank you
[17:03] ÇɦαĻίɕє Ƙ Çɦαɱρίoη (chalicek):    ★  : A҈   P҈   P҈   L҈  A҈  U҈  S҈   E҈ ❢ : A҈   P҈   P҈   L҈  A҈  U҈  S҈   E҈ ❢  ★
[17:03] Neo (neowhalen): heads for the Gym
[17:03] Y.T. (yt.recreant) smilese
[17:03] Çððkïê (liljavai): Thank you T.T muuuwah hehe
[17:03] Çððkïê (liljavai): ooo typ pf
[17:03] Preostan Scribe: dang gestures. .
[17:03] Y.T. (yt.recreant): mwaaaaaaak .)
[17:03] Çððkïê (liljavai): Y.T
[17:03] Çððkïê (liljavai): :D
[17:03] Dig (digtheshark) sits down and takes a deep breath, ommmmmmmm
[17:04] Kelv Beck: thank you!
[17:04] Wang Ying (wangyingii): ty YT
[17:04] Y.T. (yt.recreant): oooooooommmm :)
[17:04] Y.T. (yt.recreant): my pleasure !
[17:04] Winter (winterthyme): Thanks evryone for coming - and thanks to YT for a great talk!
[17:04] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): ohm
[17:04] кђαℓเ  (khaliesi): smiles
[17:04] Çððkïê (liljavai): was awesome :D

Friday, August 21, 2015

EarthBank Latest - Red Cross Food Parcels!

EarthBank today issued this important notice:

+++Message Starts+++

Each resident of the Amazon, regardless of status, can now pick up one (1!) starter pack including some coins, meat and fish.

Find your free pack at the tent of the Red Cross (which is near the trading table)

This way, starters, new visitors, have the chance to trade as they get a set of coins to begin with. Also they can prepare soup, without the need to hunt, in the start.

Austerity is Prosperity!

+++Message Ends+++

Tuesday, August 18, 2015

EarthBank Latest!

The following just in on the newswires:-

++++Message Starts++++

Concerned that austerity measures might cause hardship for the good people of the Amazon, the EarthBank has arranged emergency food supplies.  One side effect of the food bonanza is a sudden increase in crocodile activity.

"A well-fed people is a happy people" - a spokesperson said, adding "Austerity is Prosperity!"

++++Message Ends+++

Important HUD changes

A new release of the HUD will be made available today. A number of important changes are being made:

  • You will now drown more quickly if you attempt to walk under water
  • Whilst you are in the Amazon, you need to eat to stay healthy.  If you do not eat your health points will slowly fade away as you starve.
  • If you starve, you will taken by natives to a safe place to recover (just as when you drown) - but when you wake your health will still be poor - 6 HP only (and at 5 you are downed).
  • If your health is poor (due to a fight or starvation) you will not automatically recover with time - you need to eat food to restore your strength, or find a healer.
  • You can now make a nourishing soup of banana, corn cob, chicken, fish and croc meat by using the new 'Eat'  function in your hud which restores 2 HP.
  • Healers will lose health each time they heal - so must keep themselves well nourished - and can only heal when they are in good health (at least 14 HP)
you will not consume more energy when you run
you will not lose energy when the amazon HUD is off (outside amazon or offline)
in fact, health points for hunger decrease so slow, that it will only have a slight affect on your Amazon stay
and if you really do not look after it, the worst is that you get force Tped once on two days (the same like when you drown, no big deal really)

the main reasons why we introduced this is:
in combat, now being shot has indeed consequences
Healers are no longer superpowers

and food *has* a value for trade (mostly for combat people)

Sunday, August 16, 2015

EarthBank takes charge of Amazon economy!

The EarthBank has just issued the results of its study of the Amazon River economy.

"A surfeit of coins in circulation means rampant inflation - controls must be put in place over the money supply.  With immediate effect the primary source of Coin will be withdrawn - the Trading Table. All trade items must be traded between the People of the Amazon for Coin already in circulation or for Shots or for any other services or goods"

Furthermore, it has been noted that the manufacture of Arrows and Bullets has a significant impact on the economy. With immediate effect all arrow/bullet making equipment is dismantled.  The only source of shots is now through trade with other people or by purchasing them from an authorised vendor.

Trade items will continue to be available in the usual manner, although EarthBank specialists will carefully check that supply and demand are properly balanced.

The EarthBank hopes that these changes will stabilise the economy of the Amazon River, which will be closely monitored over the coming weeks. If further measures are needed they will be implemented.

Austerity is Prosperity! We are all in this together!"

Friday, June 12, 2015

Roleplay Discussion 12 June

Verbatim Transcript from the roleplay class/discussion on Friday 12 June

[2015/06/12 09:04]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Thank you all for taking the time to come over...
[2015/06/12 09:05]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): If you have questions, we require that you follow these steps:
 make a ? in public chat
 type ahead what you want to ask but do NOT send it
 wait till your name is called, then send what you wrote.
 This way we are keeping the flow.
[2015/06/12 09:05]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): in this RP class we wil cover in the start some basic settings
[2015/06/12 09:05]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): settigns for a more fluent SL
[2015/06/12 09:05]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): technical sides
[2015/06/12 09:05]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and then look into the RP aspects
[2015/06/12 09:05]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i do not give canned sentences but type life. that means two things:
[2015/06/12 09:06]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): typos, if you find them, are free
[2015/06/12 09:06]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and i can take a bit time to type
[2015/06/12 09:06]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): hence the point that if you want to ask, questions are always welcome, but make a ? first and then weait til you are called
[2015/06/12 09:06]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): now, let us start with the viewer
[2015/06/12 09:07]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Most viewers try to adjust their settings to what they think they find on your computer...
[2015/06/12 09:07]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and most viewers fail with that
[2015/06/12 09:07]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): as result you have setting sthat do not match your needs,
[2015/06/12 09:07]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): one of the things most often underestiamted, is the draw distance
[2015/06/12 09:08]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you have a draw distance of 256 metersd, your vier tries to rezz up to the horizon ,all stuff, that you most likely anyway never will look at, just because, you told the viewer to do so
[2015/06/12 09:08]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and while in many regions it is ok, as, they are just one region...
[2015/06/12 09:08]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): in larger areas, like here, you can that way force your viewer to rezz up to four regions, if you stand in one corner...
[2015/06/12 09:08]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): four regions, with all avatars in them
[2015/06/12 09:09]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and then yes, then you may well lag
[2015/06/12 09:09]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so, it really makes no sense for Roleplay and normal exploring, like her ein the amazon, to have a draw distance of more than 96 meters
[2015/06/12 09:09]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): in firestorm and some other viewers, you can type in chat "dd 96" to achieve that
[2015/06/12 09:09]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): or you go via preferences/graphics
[2015/06/12 09:10]  NM-090615: Now at Rio Solimoes Amazon River - Eight regions - one river! 155./63.3/24.7
[2015/06/12 09:10]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): once you are there, at the preferences, then you can check in the graphics also whethe royu need the "shadow and light" effect..
[2015/06/12 09:10]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you just explore, then you can swithc the "Sun and Moon" shadows off
[2015/06/12 09:10]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): they out a reall ybig load on your graphic card
[2015/06/12 09:11]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you use NViodia, and are a bit savvy of your computer, look at this link:
[2015/06/12 09:11]  Jaq Hughes (mushueucalyptus): ?
[2015/06/12 09:11]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant):
[2015/06/12 09:11]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the screenshots there are dated, the technmology behind not
[2015/06/12 09:11]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): it explains how you can achieve up to 50% more performance from your Nvidia card
[2015/06/12 09:12]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Jaq?
[2015/06/12 09:12]  Lucky Laburnum: ?
[2015/06/12 09:12]  Jaq Hughes (mushueucalyptus): I'm using firestorm
[2015/06/12 09:12]  Jaq Hughes (mushueucalyptus): and I'm not sure where to change the sun and moon shadow settings.
[2015/06/12 09:12]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): preferencse, graphics...
[2015/06/12 09:13]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): there then in the graphjics, in the general tab
[2015/06/12 09:13]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and there "Shadows"
[2015/06/12 09:13]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): a drop down menu
[2015/06/12 09:13]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): set to "none"
[2015/06/12 09:13]  Jaq Hughes (mushueucalyptus): Yeah
[2015/06/12 09:13]  Jaq Hughes (mushueucalyptus): It won't let me change it.
[2015/06/12 09:13]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i would always set it "ON" for picture taking.. but never for day to day RP
[2015/06/12 09:13]  Jaq Hughes (mushueucalyptus): But it's set to none.
[2015/06/12 09:13]  Jaq Hughes (mushueucalyptus): Ah, okay.
[2015/06/12 09:14]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ah then you have not ticked on the "Atmospheric" or "Advancaed" boxes above
[2015/06/12 09:14]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): then you are good also
[2015/06/12 09:14]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): they are even less eyecandy, ifd disabled
[2015/06/12 09:14]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Lucky?
[2015/06/12 09:14]  Jaq Hughes (mushueucalyptus): Awesome, thank you.
[2015/06/12 09:14]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you're welcome :)
[2015/06/12 09:14]  Lucky Laburnum: can I just add that if you want to take nice pictures,  you might want to increase graphics detail and draw distance and other things, but then put them back again when finished.
[2015/06/12 09:14]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): yes, totes right :)
[2015/06/12 09:15]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ok..
[2015/06/12 09:15]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): noe the next point...
[2015/06/12 09:15]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): your avatar..
[2015/06/12 09:15]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): one thing we noticed lhere, increasingly, is that the SL model is a bit reachigns its limits with attachment points
[2015/06/12 09:15]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you have 32 only
[2015/06/12 09:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): that includes your HUDs
[2015/06/12 09:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): now imagine.. balloon boobs, phat arse - or a cock.. and pubes...
[2015/06/12 09:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): all attachments
[2015/06/12 09:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): then a HUD for this, a HUD for that
[2015/06/12 09:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and your meshj clothes, mesh head, hair
[2015/06/12 09:17]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if things fail to attach, here at the amazon, we can confirm that there are so far, only two known reasons:
[2015/06/12 09:17]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the first is singularity - it seems to have a problem with the latest LL enhancements in scripts. which we use here
[2015/06/12 09:17]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you use that viewer - we are sorry
[2015/06/12 09:17]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and the other is, that you exceeded 32 attachments
[2015/06/12 09:18]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): attaching more fails silently
[2015/06/12 09:18]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): ?
[2015/06/12 09:18]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so, then try simply to take one item off and one more run
[2015/06/12 09:18]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): luis?
[2015/06/12 09:18]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): gracias, en este punto hay una tercer variante para moda mesh
[2015/06/12 09:18]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): thank you, at this point there is a third variant fashion mesh
[2015/06/12 09:18]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): los creadores por lo general adjuntan todo a la mano derecha
[2015/06/12 09:18]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): creators usually attached all right hand
[2015/06/12 09:19]  Kailyr: ?
[2015/06/12 09:19]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): y esto causa problemas en especial si eres fanatico de rlv
[2015/06/12 09:19]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): and this causes problems especially if you're a fan of rlv
[2015/06/12 09:19]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): that is correct...
[2015/06/12 09:19]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): however, that is RLV specific..
[2015/06/12 09:19]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): as for the script and load and performance thing....
[2015/06/12 09:19]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you can indeed attach 32 things at your right hand
[2015/06/12 09:19]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and then nothign else elsewhere
[2015/06/12 09:19]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but for RLV-strip it is a major pain, yes :)
[2015/06/12 09:19]  Winter (winterthyme): Kailyr had a question also Sugar, when you are ready
[2015/06/12 09:20]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): yes, Kailyr, shoot
[2015/06/12 09:20]  Kailyr: eduard, if it is rigged you can attach it anywhere using the "attach to" menu. it will go at its good place. my question is..what is the impact of a mesh body.
[2015/06/12 09:20]  Kailyr: full one
[2015/06/12 09:20]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): yes, rigged mesh you can manually select any point.. and the impact of a mesh body is 1 attachment point
[2015/06/12 09:20]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but if you use, lets sday, slink
[2015/06/12 09:21]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): then you have the body=1
[2015/06/12 09:21]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the hands=1
[2015/06/12 09:21]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the feet=1
[2015/06/12 09:21]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so three
[2015/06/12 09:21]  Kailyr: yes. true. and its hud
[2015/06/12 09:21]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): right
[2015/06/12 09:21]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): my body is 1
[2015/06/12 09:21]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and a HUD (which i seldom use)
[2015/06/12 09:21]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but that varies really
[2015/06/12 09:22]  Kailyr: i was worrying of scripts also. but that later then
[2015/06/12 09:22]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): now.. one topic, that cause the most irritations and misunderstandigns...
[2015/06/12 09:22]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): that is
[2015/06/12 09:22]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): scripts! :D
[2015/06/12 09:22]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): tadaa!
[2015/06/12 09:22]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): we all know and i hate) them script counters at region entrances
[2015/06/12 09:22]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): they are uselesss, to put it blank
[2015/06/12 09:22]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the topic i wil explain now very simplified
[2015/06/12 09:23]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): scripts are executed by the server, usually...
[2015/06/12 09:23]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the region=the server
[2015/06/12 09:23]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so if we have 100 scripts.. the server runs 100 scripts
[2015/06/12 09:23]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): BUT
[2015/06/12 09:23]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): a few years ago LL introduced somethign called "Mono"
[2015/06/12 09:24]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and ok, they messed it up so very badly, that it paralyzed SL for almost two years, the mono bug.. but that is all past...
[2015/06/12 09:24]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): stil it damaged the "reputatioN" of scripts so badly,..
[2015/06/12 09:24]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): that people stil think that it is so simple= many scripts=lag
[2015/06/12 09:24]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): this is, since, 3 or so years, not the case anymore
[2015/06/12 09:24]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the deal is:
[2015/06/12 09:25]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you load 1 script onto the server, lets say "Sctript A"
[2015/06/12 09:25]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and your neighbouar does the same, also has a "Script A"
[2015/06/12 09:25]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): then the server says "oh, look, i have twice the same script, so i simply run it twice, isntead of running two copies"
[2015/06/12 09:25]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you see:
[2015/06/12 09:25]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you can have 40 peopl ewearing the Amazon HUD in the same region
[2015/06/12 09:26]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the load on the server is = 1 HUD
[2015/06/12 09:26]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): this is actually pretty amazing - yet not so well known
[2015/06/12 09:26]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the tricky thing is.. i can not say what scripts you are wearong
[2015/06/12 09:26]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you wear:
[2015/06/12 09:26]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): 1. amazon HUD
[2015/06/12 09:26]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): 1 Mama Allpa
[2015/06/12 09:27]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and maybe 1 "Maike Hugger" - then you wear exactly what i wear, in scripts
[2015/06/12 09:27]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but if you wear a different "hugger"
[2015/06/12 09:27]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): then your script, for that HUD, adds to the server
[2015/06/12 09:27]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so, it is impossible to say, how 40 avatars affect the server
[2015/06/12 09:27]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): 40 avatars wearing all the same stuff count as 1
[2015/06/12 09:27]  Kailyr: ?
[2015/06/12 09:28]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): ?
[2015/06/12 09:28]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but 40 avatars all different attachemtns,s count as 40
[2015/06/12 09:28]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): bottom line: to say "oh, you have many scripts you cause lag" is simply wrong and won't be "more true" just because everyone says so
[2015/06/12 09:28]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Kailyr ?
[2015/06/12 09:28]  Winter (winterthyme): Yamanah had a question, when you are ready also
[2015/06/12 09:28]  Kailyr: are the script all same impact? example i wear a hair that can be resized "on touch". it stays inactive if i dont touch. then i wear my belleza hud (touch also) and my weapone say drawed
[2015/06/12 09:29]  Kailyr: weapon*
[2015/06/12 09:29]  Kailyr: do they run in same way?
[2015/06/12 09:29]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): no, scripts vary in size. and one .. errr. messed up detail.. brouhght to us by LL is, that even "sleepign scripts" eat as much memory as running scripts
[2015/06/12 09:29]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so...
[2015/06/12 09:29]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): lets say
[2015/06/12 09:30]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you have an old sculpted hair, with 200 prims
[2015/06/12 09:30]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and in each prim is the same resizer script
[2015/06/12 09:30]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if the script then is "Mono", it counts as 1
[2015/06/12 09:30]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if the hair is *really* old, it counts as 200
[2015/06/12 09:30]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): your chance to see that? none
[2015/06/12 09:30]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the topic is really too fuzzy, the tools one has to analyze, are too thin
[2015/06/12 09:31]  Kailyr: not even if i check my own scripts?
[2015/06/12 09:31]  Kailyr: pie menu?
[2015/06/12 09:31]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): then it says "so and so many in sleeping state" which is already the thing that is not relevant, as the lsleeping scripts cause the same server load
[2015/06/12 09:31]  Kayra the Imp (kayra.rae): is offline.
[2015/06/12 09:31]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): also..
[2015/06/12 09:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): it will count your amazon HUD - then you think "OMGOSH - X scritps in that HUD"...
[2015/06/12 09:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but as everyone here runs that exact same HUD - the load is again not important
[2015/06/12 09:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so.. one can only say:
[2015/06/12 09:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): do not fret about attachments, wher you see, really everyone uses it
[2015/06/12 09:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): like, for the men, xcite or aeros...
[2015/06/12 09:33]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): for the weapons, LR, i guess, many use here..
[2015/06/12 09:33]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and as mating HUD, mama allpa...
[2015/06/12 09:33]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i guess it is fair to assume, that here, in this setting, this setup is fairly common
[2015/06/12 09:33]  Winter (winterthyme): Yamanah had a question
[2015/06/12 09:33]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and more exotic attachments, like that "free radar hud" that just püopped up, well, you decide :)
[2015/06/12 09:33]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Yamanah?
[2015/06/12 09:34]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): So it would be good, if we all drop any other Swim HUDs and use the one we get here? And would it make sense to post a list somewhere, what scripts are used by many people, anyway, so we need not have a bad conscience when wearing that, as well?
[2015/06/12 09:34]  GEO (geogetta): ?
[2015/06/12 09:34]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): like you said aeros or xcite
[2015/06/12 09:34]  Jaq Hughes (mushueucalyptus): ?
[2015/06/12 09:35]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if all used that swim hud, it would reduce the load. but i see the practical obstacles.. such classses, and informations as we run now, last exactly one hour or two.. then enough new visitors arrive who do not know where the blog is, that we huse swim HUDs etc
[2015/06/12 09:35]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): we can only repeat and then repeat it again but i would not like to force people..
[2015/06/12 09:35]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): like "oh i bought an AO for 1000 L$ with swim HUD in it and wairt, i can't use it here?
[2015/06/12 09:36]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): they would not like it, and until i got there to reason it out they would have left :)
[2015/06/12 09:36]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): point taken
[2015/06/12 09:36]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and as a public board: as i said, they are also not very efficient. a script effect oin the server can vary big time also... there are things we did not mention yet even..
[2015/06/12 09:36]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): like, when you TP in
[2015/06/12 09:36]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): all scripts when you tp in, register with the server
[2015/06/12 09:37]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): common script counters wil faint then, as they say "OMG, like .. 30 MB???
[2015/06/12 09:37]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and 5 seconds latger ist is 3 MB
[2015/06/12 09:37]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and so on, the list is endless, really
[2015/06/12 09:37]  Winter (winterthyme): Geo had a question - then Jaq
[2015/06/12 09:37]  GEO (geogetta): i heard slink feet and hands are way high in scripts ?
[2015/06/12 09:37]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): No, I meant a list where we supply the info of what huds we easch use...
[2015/06/12 09:37]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ah such a list, we can look at, good idea, Yamanah, we wil add it to the todo list
[2015/06/12 09:38]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and Geo...
[2015/06/12 09:38]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): :)
[2015/06/12 09:38]  GEO (geogetta): smiles
[2015/06/12 09:38]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you can right click an attachment, and select from the menu the script info.. but as i mentioned, that infop is .. not helpful.. my point about scripts is simply:
[2015/06/12 09:38]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): don't sweat it
[2015/06/12 09:38]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): wear what you need
[2015/06/12 09:38]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): do not overdo it....
[2015/06/12 09:38]  GEO (geogetta): crocs ate them
[2015/06/12 09:38]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i have like 3 or 4 photography HUDs
[2015/06/12 09:39]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i do not wear them at the moment
[2015/06/12 09:39]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): as i don't take pics
[2015/06/12 09:39]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so, wear what you need :)
[2015/06/12 09:39]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and take off what you don't need
[2015/06/12 09:39]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and if someone runs a script counter: my regards: they need to learn more
[2015/06/12 09:39]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and if someone says "it is so laggy here because of the scripts" - same
[2015/06/12 09:40]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Jaq?
[2015/06/12 09:40]  menelao1970: ?
[2015/06/12 09:40]  menelao1970: gli hud delle gesture creano lag?
[2015/06/12 09:41]  Winter (winterthyme): menelao - please wait until you are called by Sugar to ask your question
[2015/06/12 09:41]  Jaq Hughes (mushueucalyptus): I just wanted to ask where we might find the swim hud but I'm guessing that info is on the blog?
[2015/06/12 09:42]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ah it is only a temp attachment... given out at one blue house and .. i think at Rio Grande.. but let me dig the marketplace link, hold on :)
[2015/06/12 09:42]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant):
[2015/06/12 09:42]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): this is the HUD
[2015/06/12 09:43]  Winter (winterthyme): and menelao had a question about gestures I think
[2015/06/12 09:43]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ask away, menelao
[2015/06/12 09:44]  menelao1970: what about active gesture and lag?
[2015/06/12 09:44]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): gestures are not scripts..
[2015/06/12 09:44]  menelao1970: ok
[2015/06/12 09:44]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): they are fine.. they can influence the sound queue but thats it
[2015/06/12 09:44]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): :)
[2015/06/12 09:44]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ok
[2015/06/12 09:44]  menelao1970: thanks
[2015/06/12 09:44]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you're welcome :)
[2015/06/12 09:45]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): now.. so far, our viewer is ready...
[2015/06/12 09:45]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the next topic is - who do i want to be - and why?
[2015/06/12 09:45]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): also a general question, for roleplay, here, and elsewhere
[2015/06/12 09:45]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): we wil lbreak it down to the amazon rules, but the thoughts and ideas behind apply for any RP area
[2015/06/12 09:46]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): there are two styles of RP, in general, i would say
[2015/06/12 09:46]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): one is the peaceful "day to day" RP.. as kids we played, in RL.. maybe "House"
[2015/06/12 09:46]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): that "house" play, is to be found here, often with shaman RP, with day to day events like fishing, making celebrations and all that
[2015/06/12 09:47]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): also, many people who come here, for the surroundings, who want to take pictures,...
[2015/06/12 09:47]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): who just want to sit here and unwind...
[2015/06/12 09:47]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): stay "explorer" and if they RP they do it only light, in the "House" - style
[2015/06/12 09:47]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the other RP is more the conflict laden one..
[2015/06/12 09:47]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): predator and prey
[2015/06/12 09:47]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): D and s
[2015/06/12 09:48]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): raider and native
[2015/06/12 09:48]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): has many names, but yah, it is often the same, just the labels vary
[2015/06/12 09:48]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but what i found also often is: people "would like" to be one role but can't live up to it
[2015/06/12 09:49]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): one example is the "friendly agressor"
[2015/06/12 09:49]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): like "oh, i shot you, is it ok if i strip you now?"
[2015/06/12 09:49]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): yes, true story
[2015/06/12 09:49]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but also the aggressive prey
[2015/06/12 09:49]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): where fierce is not what i mean
[2015/06/12 09:49]  GEO (geogetta): giggles
[2015/06/12 09:49]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but really vile.. like "you motherfucker why did you shoot me, fuck of you bloody bastard"
[2015/06/12 09:49]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): also true story
[2015/06/12 09:50]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): both are examples where the person in case, has to ask him/herself - did i really chose for me the right role?
[2015/06/12 09:50]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you slap on a "lost" tag, you are prone to be hunted
[2015/06/12 09:50]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you slap on a rogue tag, you are expected to be hunted
[2015/06/12 09:50]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ah wait
[2015/06/12 09:50]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): wrong
[2015/06/12 09:50]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): as rogue, you are exepected TO HUNT !
[2015/06/12 09:51]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and if you want to chill, yah, then "settler" is cool
[2015/06/12 09:51]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): explorer even more so, as explorer you can't really hunt, but you are pretty well protectred from stray bullets
[2015/06/12 09:52]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): many want to be shaman, for thej love of nature or so.. I don't know - we stil hav eto figer why that role is so popular
[2015/06/12 09:52]  Kirrilynn Carden (kirrilynn): ?
[2015/06/12 09:52]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): in a moment :)
[2015/06/12 09:52]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): either way...
[2015/06/12 09:52]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): what i want to say is:
[2015/06/12 09:52]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): be clear about your own motivations
[2015/06/12 09:52]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you are a shy and timid person RL, you are not really a rogue
[2015/06/12 09:52]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): simpel as that
[2015/06/12 09:52]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and if you are a fierce, aggressive person, you are probably a bad prey
[2015/06/12 09:53]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): now, when you decided for a role.. dress to that
[2015/06/12 09:53]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): do not run around in high heels here
[2015/06/12 09:53]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and as a rogue, don't wear a colalr and steel shackles
[2015/06/12 09:53]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): etc
[2015/06/12 09:53]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you get the picture
[2015/06/12 09:53]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Kirrilynn?
[2015/06/12 09:54]  Kirrilynn Carden (kirrilynn): was just wondering, if you start as "lost" can you move to "settler" or another role later?
[2015/06/12 09:54]  Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): ?
[2015/06/12 09:54]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): yes, anytime. seekers wil help you there
[2015/06/12 09:54]  Kirrilynn Carden (kirrilynn): thak you
[2015/06/12 09:54]  Kirrilynn Carden (kirrilynn): *thank
[2015/06/12 09:54]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): :)
[2015/06/12 09:54]  Winter (winterthyme): Read this link on the blog:
[2015/06/12 09:54]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): And Saucy?
[2015/06/12 09:54]  Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): i was gonna add on the shaman popularity
[2015/06/12 09:55]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): please do
[2015/06/12 09:56]  Saucy Revy (saucyrevy): some want to heal their tribe, some wanna take advantage of tons of health, and some, for example, a certain seafaring group, used to overload shamans, like 3 per battle, to ensure victory
[2015/06/12 09:56]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): :D
[2015/06/12 09:56]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i will come to that too!
[2015/06/12 09:56]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ok...
[2015/06/12 09:56]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): now.. for the RP...
[2015/06/12 09:57]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the bst thing, if you have not done it yet.. is to immerse by disabling all the technmical aids your viewer provides
[2015/06/12 09:57]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): like.. the floating names
[2015/06/12 09:57]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i gathered that many people have trouble to separate IC and OOC...
[2015/06/12 09:57]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): In Character and Out Of Character
[2015/06/12 09:58]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so.. OUt of Character is how we are here
[2015/06/12 09:58]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): OOC is also that W and i run the technical part here
[2015/06/12 09:58]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): now, people *assume* that if they meet W or me, that we have "superpowers"
[2015/06/12 09:58]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): while we can certainly do some administrativie thigns, like eject or so...
[2015/06/12 09:58]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): these are things we would not do in a RP
[2015/06/12 09:58]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): bnecause in a RP we are IC
[2015/06/12 09:59]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): now, with W and me, these exampels are obvious...
[2015/06/12 09:59]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so today i saw another thing in amazon chat
[2015/06/12 09:59]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): someone like "and they did not wear this and that tag"
[2015/06/12 09:59]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): let me ask back then.. (rethorical)...
[2015/06/12 09:59]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): are we wearing tags RL above our heads?
[2015/06/12 09:59]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): do you see it ont he nosetip that the person next to you RL is good or bad?
[2015/06/12 10:00]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): a tax evader? a big domor for a good cause?
[2015/06/12 10:00]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): is it written on their forehead?
[2015/06/12 10:00]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): not so
[2015/06/12 10:00]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): still people really rely ont he tags.. and by that..
[2015/06/12 10:00]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): they take away from their own RP
[2015/06/12 10:00]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): because of an assumption
[2015/06/12 10:00]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): "Oh, thjis one is a rogue, so i have to be already.. wary...
[2015/06/12 10:00]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): your rogue has no chance to surprise you anymore
[2015/06/12 10:01]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): "oh, this one is the admin, appraoch with caution"
[2015/06/12 10:01]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you just stole yourself the chance of some natural flowing RP with that
[2015/06/12 10:01]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): etc
[2015/06/12 10:01]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): try it for one day
[2015/06/12 10:01]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): disable the name tags
[2015/06/12 10:01]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): in your viewer, preferences...
[2015/06/12 10:01]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): general tab
[2015/06/12 10:01]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): "Name tags: OFF"
[2015/06/12 10:01]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): also take off your radars
[2015/06/12 10:02]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and then wander around
[2015/06/12 10:02]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): landing spot is cool but forest is cooler ! :)
[2015/06/12 10:02]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and then we come to what Saucy said, Shaman in the group to get the victory...
[2015/06/12 10:02]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): here.. everyone please ask themselves...
[2015/06/12 10:02]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): what is the aim of RP?
[2015/06/12 10:03]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the aim of RP is... to get RP
[2015/06/12 10:03]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the aim is NOT to win.
[2015/06/12 10:03]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): there is no "won battle"
[2015/06/12 10:03]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): there is no "points" lilke in an ego shooter
[2015/06/12 10:03]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): what is the very worst thing that could possibly happen to you if you lost a "battle"?
[2015/06/12 10:03]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you get RP
[2015/06/12 10:03]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and that is why you are here
[2015/06/12 10:04]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the idea why people want to win is very simple
[2015/06/12 10:04]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and i suffered the same foolish idea myself for years
[2015/06/12 10:04]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): it is .. the will, by all means, to stay in control
[2015/06/12 10:04]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): ?
[2015/06/12 10:04]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): that is why they run radars
[2015/06/12 10:04]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and hit meters that tell them who shot them
[2015/06/12 10:04]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): or even looks in Mouselook at them
[2015/06/12 10:04]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and why they want to be ready to winterthyme
[2015/06/12 10:04]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): to win!
[2015/06/12 10:05]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): (silly viewer)
[2015/06/12 10:05]  Winter (winterthyme): /me grins
[2015/06/12 10:05]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and these people cry also the loudest when they did not winterthyme
[2015/06/12 10:05]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): win!
[2015/06/12 10:05]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): like "took their HUD off" or "inmvalid weapoN" or "jumped too high" or "my ISP had anissue"
[2015/06/12 10:05]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): pffff
[2015/06/12 10:05]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): nonsense, all
[2015/06/12 10:06]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and when all of this fails, they come with a huge list of "limits" in their profile
[2015/06/12 10:06]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): read my limits
[2015/06/12 10:06]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i think they suffice
[2015/06/12 10:06]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): coz. really
[2015/06/12 10:06]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if the RP is bad, as in .. boring, i surf the web.. and drop a line every now and then...
[2015/06/12 10:06]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if the RP is bad as in distatesteful (by my standards)...
[2015/06/12 10:06]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i tell so in IM and take my leave
[2015/06/12 10:07]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): why bother with drama?
[2015/06/12 10:07]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): an d why dishonor at the first inconvenience?
[2015/06/12 10:07]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): keep two things ALWAYS in mind:
[2015/06/12 10:07]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): 1. you are not here to stay in control and to win - it is no shootergame...
[2015/06/12 10:07]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): 2. the other person is actuallly spending their RL lifetime to have some enjoyable moments with you
[2015/06/12 10:07]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): honor that
[2015/06/12 10:08]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if possible
[2015/06/12 10:08]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so i lsot track, Winter, who asked?
[2015/06/12 10:08]  Winter (winterthyme): Luis had a question when you are ready for it Sugar
[2015/06/12 10:08]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ok, Luis
[2015/06/12 10:08]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): gracias pero mas que una pregunta es una guia
[2015/06/12 10:08]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): thanks but a question is a guide
[2015/06/12 10:08]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): tal vez sea muy nuevo para los simuladores, pero de juego de rol si he tenido experiencia
[2015/06/12 10:08]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): it may be very new to the simulators, RPG but if I had experience
[2015/06/12 10:09]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): este lugar en especial es un juego de rol en vida paralela, no estas jugando para un equipo, estas creando una vida
[2015/06/12 10:09]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): this place special is an RPG in parallel life, not playing for a team, you are creating a life
[2015/06/12 10:09]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): cuando creas una vida tiene su historia, caracter y comportamiento, vive la vida, dejala fluir, actua de acuerdo a la naturaleza
[2015/06/12 10:09]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): when you create a life has its history, character and behavior, live life, let it flow, acts according to nature
[2015/06/12 10:09]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): no es cuestion de agradar a todos, es cuestion de que te agrade ser como eres
[2015/06/12 10:09]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): there is no question of pleasing everyone, it's about that you like being you
[2015/06/12 10:09]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): gracias
[2015/06/12 10:09]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): thanks
[2015/06/12 10:09]  Jon Wilson (jonwilson): ?
[2015/06/12 10:10]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Thank you Luis :)
[2015/06/12 10:10]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and Jon?
[2015/06/12 10:10]  Jon Wilson (jonwilson): One issue Ive had with the whole limits thing is people who expect to do everything to you (which I don't have issue with) but then they wont allow anything to happen to them if they get captured - it's happened a few times and it is really disillusioning when it happens
[2015/06/12 10:10]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): /me grins "and no w is ay somethign which has caused last week already a constant flow of OMG; " Ims to me
[2015/06/12 10:10]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i don't read limits
[2015/06/12 10:11]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): see....
[2015/06/12 10:11]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): ?
[2015/06/12 10:11]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you are in the RL jungle.. and a crocodile is about to eat you..
[2015/06/12 10:11]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): Ha ha ha ha - he he he!!! =D
[2015/06/12 10:11]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): Ha ha ha ha - he he he !!! = D
[2015/06/12 10:11]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): try to say "no, that is my limit!"
[2015/06/12 10:11]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and if you are in a RL conflict, and someone is about to shoot you.. try to say "no, that is a limit"
[2015/06/12 10:11]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and also...
[2015/06/12 10:12]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): in most cases, wher epeople whione about "they violated my limit"...
[2015/06/12 10:12]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): these same people were already havign a run in capping others
[2015/06/12 10:12]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and then they were not gentle
[2015/06/12 10:12]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and on payback day they are cry babies
[2015/06/12 10:12]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the thing is simple...
[2015/06/12 10:12]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i hardly ever hunt myself
[2015/06/12 10:12]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): when i capture someone i try to kjeep it light...
[2015/06/12 10:12]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): a spanking maybe
[2015/06/12 10:12]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): some teasing
[2015/06/12 10:13]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and the same i get in return, if someone caps me
[2015/06/12 10:13]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): perfectly fine
[2015/06/12 10:13]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if i would go around and slit throats, i would have to expect the same to happen to me one day
[2015/06/12 10:13]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so, don't go into the kitchen if you can't stand the heat, play only as far as you would go on yourself
[2015/06/12 10:13]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): especially with peoiple you seldom rp withj
[2015/06/12 10:13]  Winter (winterthyme): Luis may have a further question I think
[2015/06/12 10:13]  Jon Wilson (jonwilson): ?
[2015/06/12 10:13]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Luis?
[2015/06/12 10:14]  Winter (winterthyme): and then Jon
[2015/06/12 10:14]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): bueno referente a eso de los limites, tu misma has dicho que en la vida real nadie respeta los limites
[2015/06/12 10:14]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): So good concerning the limits, you yourself have said that in real life no one respects the limits
[2015/06/12 10:14]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): en los juegos de rol es igual, porque los limites no lo impone la persona, lo impone es el ambiente
[2015/06/12 10:14]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): in RPGs it is the same, because the limits imposed by the person did not, what is the environment imposes
[2015/06/12 10:14]  Ezra (graypeterson): ?
[2015/06/12 10:14]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): si vives en un campo hostil no esperes nobles acciones
[2015/06/12 10:14]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): if you live in a hostile field not expect noble actions
[2015/06/12 10:15]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): y si tienes muchos limites necesitas vivir en un convento
[2015/06/12 10:15]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): and if you have many limits you need to live in a convent
[2015/06/12 10:15]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): rite
[2015/06/12 10:15]  Winter (winterthyme): Jon was next then Ezra
[2015/06/12 10:15]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Jon?
[2015/06/12 10:15]  Jon Wilson (jonwilson): So as I understand it you are saying if you have done something hardcore as a hunter you cant object to same in return if captured
[2015/06/12 10:15]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): /me asiente
[2015/06/12 10:15]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): /me nods
[2015/06/12 10:15]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): yes, exactly
[2015/06/12 10:15]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but!
[2015/06/12 10:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i also want to add here already, while i wil ladd to that more later..
[2015/06/12 10:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): we do not moderate ever
[2015/06/12 10:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so coming now to us with "jane doe freaked out when i wanted to pay back on her, here are the 1000 notecards"
[2015/06/12 10:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): is.. futile
[2015/06/12 10:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): really
[2015/06/12 10:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i don't read limits, and i don't read chatlogs
[2015/06/12 10:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): it is sooo boring :)
[2015/06/12 10:16]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ok?
[2015/06/12 10:16]  Winter (winterthyme): And Ezra had something to ask you
[2015/06/12 10:17]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Ezra :)
[2015/06/12 10:17]  Ezra (graypeterson): in terms of RP, what are you supposed to do if you are RPing organically but you run into someone with the most ridiculous limits for this sim (no violence, nothing sexual) are we supposed to stop and read all the profiles beforehand?
[2015/06/12 10:17]  Ezra (graypeterson): I know this was brought up, I just didn't see an answer
[2015/06/12 10:18]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): /me smiles
[2015/06/12 10:18]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): as a rule of thumb...
[2015/06/12 10:18]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if they wear the "explorer tag" leave them alone...
[2015/06/12 10:18]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if they wear any other tag.. enjoy !
[2015/06/12 10:19]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): because, yes...
[2015/06/12 10:19]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): ?
[2015/06/12 10:19]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): coming her with "No no no no" in profile as limit.. is.. dull
[2015/06/12 10:19]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and just yells for an extra lesson :)
[2015/06/12 10:19]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Yamanah?
[2015/06/12 10:20]  Kailyr: ?
[2015/06/12 10:20]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): Can you give out an "Explorer" floating text then, as after your council I do not see tags anymore... how can I know that I need to leave this explorer alone?
[2015/06/12 10:20]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): /me laughs
[2015/06/12 10:20]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): good point
[2015/06/12 10:20]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): ;)
[2015/06/12 10:20]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): errrr
[2015/06/12 10:20]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): i will call it then colletral damage - Buish administration introduced it and got away so well with it, so we just follow them
[2015/06/12 10:20]  Winter (winterthyme): Kailyr had a question too
[2015/06/12 10:20]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Kailyr
[2015/06/12 10:21]  Ezra (graypeterson): hahaha
[2015/06/12 10:21]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): ahora sere daño colateral, que bien :P
[2015/06/12 10:21]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): Now I will be collateral damage than good: P
[2015/06/12 10:21]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): cool
[2015/06/12 10:21]  Winter (winterthyme): luis - please post ? and wait to be called
[2015/06/12 10:21]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): zorry
[2015/06/12 10:21]  Sabrina Gagliano: ?
[2015/06/12 10:21]  Winter (winterthyme): no worries :-)
[2015/06/12 10:21]  Kailyr: say no explorer tag - enjoy. but. what about tribes tags then...example.astarii is peaceful, neutral, no violence ....
[2015/06/12 10:21]  Ezra (graypeterson): ¿
[2015/06/12 10:22]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you want to be peaceful, that is well and good, and if a rogue wants to kidnap you?
[2015/06/12 10:22]  luis eduardo (eduardsirius): ((me disculpo, debo salir ahora, ha sido una reunion agradable, un buen dia para todos))
[2015/06/12 10:22]  eduardsirius Resident (Q-Translator es->en): ((I apologize, I must leave now, it has been a pleasant meeting, a good day for all))
[2015/06/12 10:23]  Kailyr: i would roleplay it.
[2015/06/12 10:23]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): good :) and now.. i want to point out as i also juust got an IM about "but my limits!!!"
[2015/06/12 10:23]  Kailyr: but i am not sure they all would. thats all.
[2015/06/12 10:23]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the thing i want to point out now goes to the "agressors"
[2015/06/12 10:23]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the aim here is, as i said, NOT, to win by all means
[2015/06/12 10:24]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so the aim is also NOT to push any limits just because you think you can
[2015/06/12 10:24]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): think about it
[2015/06/12 10:24]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): just because we say "you can't argue with an agressor" it does not mean that you are suddenly going rampant here as well
[2015/06/12 10:24]  GEO (geogetta): hi sunaru
[2015/06/12 10:24]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): because that is actually what one would call an amok runner
[2015/06/12 10:24]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so..
[2015/06/12 10:25]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you think it is fun for othrs that you are sudenly the cruel butcher..
[2015/06/12 10:25]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): it is not
[2015/06/12 10:25]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and i don't know of any RL examples where people woul ddo so...
[2015/06/12 10:25]  Ezra (graypeterson): Jack the ripper?
[2015/06/12 10:25]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): unless they were anyway a case for the mental asylum
[2015/06/12 10:25]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): this here is a jungle, not more not less
[2015/06/12 10:25]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): it is not a torture hell
[2015/06/12 10:25]  Ezra (graypeterson): ?
[2015/06/12 10:26]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and if you get off on pissing on your victims, you may look for a dungeon
[2015/06/12 10:26]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): in the jungle, people would simply not do that
[2015/06/12 10:26]  Winter (winterthyme): Sabrina had a question when you are ready Sugar, then Ezra
[2015/06/12 10:26]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): another example is.. limits and ToS
[2015/06/12 10:26]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so many write "i don't do.. " etc....
[2015/06/12 10:26]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): well, really?
[2015/06/12 10:26]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): that is like writing "and i drink water"
[2015/06/12 10:27]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you signed up here into theis realm by acknowledginthe ToS
[2015/06/12 10:27]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so, you already stated that you wotn do it
[2015/06/12 10:27]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you then write it again, you just state the pretty obvious
[2015/06/12 10:27]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if someone tries to violate ToS withj you, AR them
[2015/06/12 10:27]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): there is a menu int he viewer
[2015/06/12 10:27]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): HELP- Report Abuse
[2015/06/12 10:27]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): it works, for real
[2015/06/12 10:28]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): that is not a limit, that is a ToS violation
[2015/06/12 10:28]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and those we certainly don't want here
[2015/06/12 10:28]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but that is so common sense, like, yah,, drinking water
[2015/06/12 10:28]  Winter (winterthyme): or gin
[2015/06/12 10:28]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): or that :)
[2015/06/12 10:28]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so, who is next?
[2015/06/12 10:28]  Winter (winterthyme): Sabrina
[2015/06/12 10:28]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ok, Sabrina
[2015/06/12 10:29]  GEO (geogetta): ?
[2015/06/12 10:29]  Kirrilynn Carden (kirrilynn): ((hate to interrupt, but rl calls. thank you for all the great info and ideas. ))
[2015/06/12 10:29]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): :)
[2015/06/12 10:29]  Winter (winterthyme): maybe we skip to Ezra then and come back to Sabrina
[2015/06/12 10:30]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): shoot, Ezra
[2015/06/12 10:30]  Ezra (graypeterson): what about people playing as the more dangerous wildlife, such as big cats, or crocs? by the nature of what they are, they should be attacking pretty much anymore that comes in contact with them
[2015/06/12 10:30]  Ezra (graypeterson): (this goes back to your "we are not insane" speech
[2015/06/12 10:31]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if they would play realistic, yes.. and i shoot them on sight
[2015/06/12 10:31]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): coz i wud do that RL too
[2015/06/12 10:31]  Sabrina Gagliano: Some limits I really would not want people to cross... Can I tell them that OOC during roleplay and expect them to honor it? (I don't like golden shower/poo stuff, sex with animals, or sex with children, for example)
[2015/06/12 10:31]  Winter (winterthyme): Although I would add - big cats even are often cautious of humans and avoid them
[2015/06/12 10:31]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): that too
[2015/06/12 10:31]  Sabrina Gagliano: But you already answered that last bit... ;-)
[2015/06/12 10:31]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ok :)
[2015/06/12 10:31]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and Sabrina. yes. do so. and also:
[2015/06/12 10:31]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): again:
[2015/06/12 10:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): no one is ever forced here to RP
[2015/06/12 10:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you find the RP unpleasant.. try to mend it in IM
[2015/06/12 10:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if it fails tell them in IM that you are going now
[2015/06/12 10:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if they keep harassing you, report them
[2015/06/12 10:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): to us
[2015/06/12 10:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but the only thing you never get away with, ever, is to take off your HUD
[2015/06/12 10:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): because that opens another can of worms, which i dotn want
[2015/06/12 10:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so, rather TP out
[2015/06/12 10:32]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but never take off your HUD :)
[2015/06/12 10:33]  Winter (winterthyme): And Geo had a question too
[2015/06/12 10:33]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): ?
[2015/06/12 10:33]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Geo, shoot
[2015/06/12 10:33]  GEO (geogetta): exactly i had a stalker from raiders i swear talking to him was lucky if he was 15, was almost daily him capping me but he  has stopped/  his account says 22 yr old boy , omg its crazy i lost it hold on
[2015/06/12 10:33]  Sabrina Gagliano: I did have one guy who kept on pestering me... Blocked his account, but he created a new one... And stalked me, trying to force me into a roleplay I did not want. Will reporting him help, since he kept on creating new accounts?
[2015/06/12 10:34]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): yes, Sabrina it wil help
[2015/06/12 10:34]  GEO (geogetta): i had a stalker on a daily basis saying he was 18 but more younger sounding
[2015/06/12 10:34]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Geo: if you have proof that he is RL underage, report him, proof is already if he brags about "omg, i am so cool, my parents don't notice...
[2015/06/12 10:34]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): report to LL that is
[2015/06/12 10:35]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if people stalk you, report them to us
[2015/06/12 10:35]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): we have pretty efficient toools here, to stop that
[2015/06/12 10:35]  Winter (winterthyme): and Yamanah had a question
[2015/06/12 10:35]  GEO (geogetta): opsmy cheif finally got him to stop
[2015/06/12 10:35]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ;)
[2015/06/12 10:35]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Yamanah?
[2015/06/12 10:35]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): Sometimes I relog and my HUD is not there... and I do not notice that at once... can I get in trouble for that? (can of worms, I do not want to eat. though it is not a limit*g*)
[2015/06/12 10:35]  Sabrina Gagliano: He stalked me using private chats, not avatar-to-avatar...
[2015/06/12 10:36]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the HUD should appear usually within 2-5 minutes
[2015/06/12 10:36]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if it is not there after 5, check your attachments etc
[2015/06/12 10:36]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if you use singualrity, change the viewer
[2015/06/12 10:36]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): you won't get into trouble for that
[2015/06/12 10:36]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): yes... has happened that I changed outfit and then it could not attach
[2015/06/12 10:36]  Jon Wilson (jonwilson): ?
[2015/06/12 10:36]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): yes, Jon?
[2015/06/12 10:36]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): I am reducing stuff... don't do it on purpose
[2015/06/12 10:36]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): :)
[2015/06/12 10:37]  Jon Wilson (jonwilson): Just as a tip - if you click stage 2 sign in the landing zone u force hud to attach
[2015/06/12 10:37]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): that is true also :)
[2015/06/12 10:37]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so.,.. now we conclude with three pointgs i wrote down for myself to cover...
[2015/06/12 10:37]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if RP goes south
[2015/06/12 10:38]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): the most important point is:
[2015/06/12 10:38]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): there are no moderators.
[2015/06/12 10:38]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but, i tend to also add, as a permantent statement: this does NOT give a predator the right to be a bully
[2015/06/12 10:38]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but lets look first at the "prey" - which can also be a pred at turned tables...
[2015/06/12 10:38]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): If you are capped and you find it unfair, analyze first: what do i lose if I simply go with the flow now?
[2015/06/12 10:39]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): again: you are here for RP, not for points
[2015/06/12 10:39]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): relax
[2015/06/12 10:39]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): give up control
[2015/06/12 10:39]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): it is quite cool, really
[2015/06/12 10:39]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): however
[2015/06/12 10:39]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): If you are capped every day by the same people and you do not like it, make clear to them that you do not like it
[2015/06/12 10:40]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and here now thje part for the predators:
[2015/06/12 10:40]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Vice Versa: do not confuse RP with bullying. If your RP style is not what your neighbour likes, stop RPing with them in that same old way. They want to have fun, like you do. there is no point in forcing your RP on them
[2015/06/12 10:40]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so, predators:
[2015/06/12 10:40]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if that tribe over there decided to be all peaceful...
[2015/06/12 10:40]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): ok, maybe kidnap them once for giggles.. light, ..
[2015/06/12 10:40]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): but otherwise, leave them in peace
[2015/06/12 10:40]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): do not force your likes on them!
[2015/06/12 10:40]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): there is no point in doing so
[2015/06/12 10:41]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): seekers and guards are no moderators... so you need to sort it out between all of you. we, the admins, step in...
[2015/06/12 10:41]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): if we learn about repeasted bullying
[2015/06/12 10:41]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): repated cheating
[2015/06/12 10:41]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): and HUD taken off
[2015/06/12 10:41]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): do not take off your HUD :)
[2015/06/12 10:41]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): so
[2015/06/12 10:41]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): that was what i had to say :)
[2015/06/12 10:42]  Sabrina Gagliano: :)
[2015/06/12 10:42]  Winter (winterthyme): Thank you Sugar - does anyone have any final questions?
[2015/06/12 10:42]  GEO (geogetta): no cookies and milk ,sugar
[2015/06/12 10:43]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): ?
[2015/06/12 10:43]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): /me smilese "then i thank you for your kind atttention.- and hope you wil have many joyful encounters!
[2015/06/12 10:43]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): Yamanah ?
[2015/06/12 10:43]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): any chance on setting home in my tribes camp?
[2015/06/12 10:43]  GEO (geogetta): thx you too sugar and winter
[2015/06/12 10:43]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): after the wisdom cave, you can do so in your HUD
[2015/06/12 10:44]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): oh cool
[2015/06/12 10:44]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): it has there a point "Home" or somesuch
[2015/06/12 10:44]  Winter (winterthyme): When you pass the Wisdom Cave test the hud allows you to set home anywhere on the Amazon
[2015/06/12 10:44]  ...Yamanah... (yamanah.akina): I will find it :)
[2015/06/12 10:44]  Winter (winterthyme): Thanks Sugar for a great talk - and thanks everyone for coming and participating
[2015/06/12 10:44]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): my pleasure :)
[2015/06/12 10:45]  Sabrina Gagliano: Thank you, Sugar and Winter!
[2015/06/12 10:45]  Sugar ღ Pop (yt.recreant): :)
[2015/06/12 10:45]  Jen (innocentlyshy): Thank You
[2015/06/12 10:45]  Lucky Laburnum: thank you

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